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Jack_Marr

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Faldo's Island
« on: December 24, 2003, 04:28:33 AM »
Nick Faldo has been given the go ahead by the High Court to complete the purchase of Bartra Island off the county Mayo coast. The former British Open winner intends to build his dream golf course on the island. Miss Justice Carroll made her finding when giving judgement in favour of a previous owner of the island, Mary Molloy of Killala Bay.


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musketeer

Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2003, 05:05:50 AM »
Jack---I hope this becomes a 'True' work of 'Art', alluding to the perfectionist intensity of the man.I ,alone, enjoyed Norman's Doonbeg work except the 18th.Norman's use of natural,shag faced bunkering was thrilling!!

Bill Gayne

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2004, 07:02:42 PM »
Some pictures from Nick Faldo's Website with a direct link below. It looks like some outstanding links land.










http://www.nickfaldo.com/design/template.php?pid=gallery_bartra_gallery&&t=ga

rgkeller

Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2004, 07:21:32 PM »
We can assume that Faldo will build a runway so the private jets of his target customer base can get in without any aggravation.

Joe Hancock

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2004, 07:29:59 PM »
We can assume that Faldo will build a runway so the private jets of his target customer base can get in without any aggravation.

Why can we assume that?
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rgkeller

Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2004, 07:31:23 PM »
Because very wealthy folks with planes do not like to be aggravated.

Jonathan Cummings

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2004, 07:31:52 PM »
Man -  those pictures are dramatic.  I hope Nick doesn't run into those unforeseen problems like experienced at Doonbeg....

Mike_Sweeney

Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2004, 08:04:25 PM »
He also has a home made video there too:

http://www.nickfaldo.com/design/template.php?pid=projects_video&t=te

My sister and brother-in-law are building a "Holiday Home" in County Mayo west of Westport. Without knowing the real details, my guess is it will take Faldo time to get it built, and there probably will be no private airports in County Mayo !

Bill Gayne

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2004, 08:18:02 PM »
With out knowing how far offshore Bartra Island is, my guess is that travel will be by either boat or helicopter. Currently, the real big money flies into Shannon and helicopters all over Ireland. The moderate money drives.
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Mike_Sweeney

Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2004, 09:20:40 PM »

Mark Brown

Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2004, 09:57:28 PM »
Looks small. Anyone know how many acres it is?

Paul_Turner

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2004, 10:16:09 PM »
I guess it's going to be an out and back.  Matt won't like it  ;)
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Neal_Meagher

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2004, 12:47:19 AM »
It's 365 acres, give or take a few.
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Forrest Richardson

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2004, 02:13:07 AM »
An acre per day...that is convenient.
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Jason McNamara

Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2004, 02:22:03 AM »
With out knowing how far offshore Bartra Island is, my guess is that travel will be by either boat or helicopter. Currently, the real big money flies into Shannon and helicopters all over Ireland. The moderate money drives.

Depending on where they can put the dock, the boat ride from the course at Enniscrone / Inishcrone would be no more than four miles.  (The island is right on the Mayo / Sligo border).

It would also be a feasible combination (in the summer, at least) with Westport, Carne, or Rosses Point.  Maybe even Donegal, for that matter.

Jason

ps.  Those of you with G-5s will have to fly into Knock - the runway at Sligo isn't long enough.  Sorry to ruin your holidays.   :)

Jonathan Cummings

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2004, 07:30:06 AM »
Exposed like it is, this is going to be one windy place!

Jack_Marr

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2004, 08:38:27 AM »
There will be days it will be unplayable because you won't be able to get out to it, I'm sure. Great for the area.
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Faldo's Island
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2004, 11:09:28 AM »
There will be days it will be unplayable because you won't be able to get out to it, I'm sure. Great for the area.

And the inverse:  once you're there, you might get "stuck" there.  

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Jack_Marr

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2012, 01:55:36 PM »
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2012, 01:59:16 PM »
Have the Irish rolled over on their environmental restrictions against building on linksland now that they are struggling financially?

Strange, since it was EU regulations rather than Irish regulations which limited the construction of links ground in the first place.  Maybe the EU is too busy with other things to bother now.

Jack_Marr

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2012, 02:20:57 PM »
I'm not sure. I think it's a European thing, but I know another place that has been stopped developing linksland by Brussels recently.

I suppose if you can get around it in Scotland, it can be got around in Ireland too.

 
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Jack_Marr

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2012, 02:30:50 PM »
It doesn't seem far off shore at all, Brian.

Here's a link on Google Earth

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=54.209243,-9.160967&spn=0.041713,0.107632&t=h&z=14

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Jack_Marr

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2012, 02:41:05 PM »
Google images says this is the place,although I can't be sure.



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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2012, 02:43:41 PM »
All environmental and land usage issues aside, the piece of property looks amazing, as do the remnants of whatever structures where on the southeast portion of the island.

The proximity to Enniscrone will make for a great combination.

Hoping that if this does get built, the best golf use of the land is the result.
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2012, 02:48:17 PM »
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.