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Erich Jr.

Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« on: December 23, 2003, 12:54:55 PM »
What course or courses would you most like to see Ran profile in his Courses By Country?

Personally, I would love to see the following:

Newport
Stonewall I& II
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ForkaB

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2003, 01:13:14 PM »
I'd first like to see him tackle the "The Next Fifty."  As far as I can see he hasn't made a dent in that list in the 3 or so years I've been on this site! :o
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Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2003, 01:28:14 PM »
I look forward to his next European visit.  He's still got some terribly well-known British courses to visit, but if I could persuade him to stay on for a little longer I'd like him to see:

Some of Simpson's classics in Belgium such as RGC des Fagnes and Royal Belgique.
Some of the classics in the Netherlands such as The Hague and Hilversum.
Some of the older British courses which have never sought the limelight yet continue to delight connoisseurs and are not already on his list, such as Tadmarton Heath, Luffenham Heath, Sandiway, Whittington Heath, Berkhamstead, Bull Bay, Nefyn, Yelverton, Parkstone, Broadstone, West Cornwall, Woodbridge, Seacroft, Liphook, Cavendish, Wirral Ladies', Lanark, Stoneham, to name but a very few.

Fear not (seasonal words), I shall find out exactly when he's coming, confiscate his passport and not let him return to an airport until he's reviewed everything European on his list and a few more, plus some 150 or so of our British hidden gems.  
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Jimmy Muratt

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2003, 01:53:40 PM »
A few that I would really like to see are:

San Francisco Golf Club
Quaker Ridge
Merion
Monroe Golf Club
Bel-Air Country Club
Deepdale
Calusa Pines
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Craig_Rokke

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2003, 02:10:25 PM »
Merion
French Creek
Barona Creek
Fernindina Beach Muni !
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blasbe1

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2003, 02:14:05 PM »
St. George's (LI)
Seawane
Rockaway Hunting Club
Inwood
Engineers
Cold Spring Harbor
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Steve Lapper

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2003, 02:25:54 PM »
Gentlemen and others...


    For all of your wish lists, each course may be written up, photographed and submitted to Ran for posting. Go to it!
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TEPaul

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2003, 02:42:57 PM »
Craig Rokke:

I was just fixin' to list Fernindina Beach Municipal and you listed it first--you dog! Even the great Ran Morrissett is not capable of doing that course justice in one of his write-ups. To do that little hidden gem justice in a write up takes a particular architectural acuity that only I possess!


;)
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Craig_Rokke

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2003, 03:14:18 PM »
TE-
That little gem you speak of, Fernindina, has been shrouded in mystery for a number of years now. I'm sure it's charm is undeniable. I bet it would make for a very interesting write-up....by a qualified author, of course.  ;)
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Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2003, 07:19:22 PM »
Royal County Down
Merion
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wsmorrison

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2003, 07:22:02 PM »
North/West Course at Fernandina Beach Municipal Golf Course
27-hole (Public)
2800 Bill Melton Rd
Fernandina Beach, FL 32034
United States (Nassau County)
Phone: (904)277-7370
Fax: (904)277-7375

The Club  
Users' Rating 4.5 (out of 5)

Review This Course
 
Year Built 1920  
Designer Tommy Bird Songs  
Classification Public  
Guest Policy Open  
Dress Code Collared shirt, no cutoffs, denim OK  
Metal Spikes Not Allowed
Fivesomes Allowed
Season Open all year  
Tee Times Accepted  
Earliest tee time 7:00 AM  
Tee Times Accepted Online N/A  
Pro Shop Hours 7:00 AM / N/A  
Location  Map & Directions
 
Other Courses at Fernandina Beach Municipal Golf Course  South/North Course , West/South Course  
 

Fees
 
Weekday Peak Season - 18 holes
 $37.00  
Weekday Peak Season - 9 holes  $23.00  
     
Weekends Peak Season - 18 holes
 $41.00  
Weekends Peak Season - 9 holes  $27.00  
     

The Course
 
General Manager / Director of Golf John Vickers  
Head Golf Professional John Vickers  
Superintendent Mike Uffelman  
Greens Bermuda Grass  
Fairways Bermuda Grass  
Number of Sand Bunkers 11-20
Water Hazards in Play Yes
Number of Rounds Played Annually 85,000 (estimated)
Greens Aerated May
June
October
 

Tees
 
Tees Yardage Rating Slope Par
Back Tees 6803  71.5  118  72
Middle Tees 6456  69.9  115  72
Forward Tees 5720  71.5  119  73
 
Additional Comments
 
This club has three nine hole courses that are played in three eighteen hole combinations. The West/South Course combination is the tournament course. The West Course is long and its fairways are wide open. There is a 600-yard, par 5, on the West Course. The South Course is where accuracy counts more than distance. There is an abundance of wildlife and water hazards on this course. Locals consider this course to be the perfect Florida scenic course. The North Course, the shortest of the three, has undulating greens.  

The two reviews associated with this write-up on golfcourse.com give the course very high praise.  For a while, Tom, I thought this course was a figment of your imagination.  It sounds like we need to hear your detailed analysis sometime in the coming year.  Cornish and Whitten list a Fernadina Beach GC designed by Ed Matteson with a 3rd nine added by Joe Lee.  There is nothing listed in the architect profiles under Tom Bird Songs or Ed Matteson.
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wsmorrison

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2003, 07:26:23 PM »
Tom Paul,

I suspect they weren't playing an estimated 85,000 rounds a year (estimated) at Fernandina when you were frequenting the course.  That is an absurd number of rounds--nearly 233 players a day!

Wayne
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JNC Lyon

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2003, 08:50:40 PM »
Oak Hill's West Course
Teugega
Merion
Finish of Lookout Mountain
Briar's Creek, South Carolina
The Creek Club
Mark Twain, NY
The Orchards
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Craig_Rokke

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2003, 08:52:40 PM »
And to think that I suspected Fernindina was some tongue-in-cheek, Carthage Clubesque muni!
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Ben Cowan-Dewar

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2003, 09:01:04 PM »
Quote from: Tiger_Bernhardt on December 23, 2003, 07:19:22 PM
Royal County Down
Merion

John,
Your wish is the easiest to achieve, RCD is there.
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Mark_Fine

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2003, 09:59:18 PM »
I'd just like to see him post more in general.  Maybe I've missed it, but I don't think I've seen a post from him in quite a long time.  If he has posted, it has been rare and infrequent!  I wonder why?  

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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2003, 10:12:18 PM »
Mark,

This is Ran's business' busiest time of year.


My wish list:

SFGC
Merion
Olympic
Baltusrol (both)
The Creek
Barona Creek
Meadow Club
Astoria
French Creek
Stonewall
Twisted Dune
Giants Ridge
Caledonia
Shadow Creek
Sutton Bay
Red Mike
Wild Horse
Colonial
Southern Hills
Newport
Quaker Ridge
Oak Hill
Oakland Hills
Inverness
Five Farms
Indian Creek
Easthampton
Fox Chapel
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CHrisB

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2003, 10:17:10 PM »
Austin GC  :)
Austin CC  :o
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Mark_Fine

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2003, 10:20:27 PM »
Scott,
I hope you are right!
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2003, 09:53:45 AM »
Add Desert Forest(Lawrence) in Carefree, AZ to the list.
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TEPaul

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2003, 10:25:01 AM »
Only Paul Cowley and I will ever know why I consider Fernindina Beach Municipal to be a great hidden gem!

TOMMY BIRD SONGS designed the course??? That's fantastic! I don't know anythng about Tommy Bird Songs as a golf architect but this is all starting to make sense. I believe Tommy Bird Songs was a Timucuan Indian that was approximately 7' tall and completely covered with tatooes. Some say he was born in the 15th century and it's true that the only people who've ever actually seen him own flasks and really "GET" the essence of golf course architecture! If you're someone who doesn't "get it" with golf architecture you'll never be able to understand why Fernindina Beach Municipal is a hidden gem and you'll definitely never be able to see Tommy Bird Songs! If you're someone who "gets it" just a little bit with golf architecture you may be able to smell Tommy Bird Songs, though, but that's about all!
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Craig Disher

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2003, 11:06:51 AM »
The Fernandina Beach GC is on the right of this picture. ;)  
I thought Inwood had an unfortunate location. It's clear the site selection is what's kept this course from being better known.


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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2003, 11:18:52 AM »
Needs a chainsaw!

-Subbing for the Coniferator.
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TEPaul

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2003, 01:49:06 PM »
redanman;

I've never met Paul Cowley but the spirit of Tommy Bird Songs has told me in no uncertain terms that Paul Cowley "gets it". Would you like me to ask Tommy Bird Songs if you "get it"?
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coniferator

Re:Wish List for Ran's Write Ups
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2003, 02:00:09 PM »
Scott, no need to fear, coniferator® is here!



jesú christú, moltka buská!

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