This old book is due for another update - it still sells well and makes decent money for its publisher.  It was a classic in its time (1976) and it's been updated many times by dozens of contributors from the UK and USA, but I confess there are huge errors of omission, errors of fact through plain ignorance (especially on my part), and errors of judgement about which courses should or should not be included.  In the end, the available budget and possible co-production deals will dictate just how much serious amendment can take place but, for the moment, there is no reason why we should not aspire at least to clear out the duds and make way for the unjustly neglected.

I shall not clutter up this site with an enormous document listing all the courses currently represented.  So if anyone would like to peruse the list and my comments and concerns about each of them, E-mail me at markrowlinson@btopenworld.com and I'll sent it as a Word or txt attachment.

I should very much value your constructive criticisms as there is so much wisdom, experience and 'savvy' amongst the contributors to this site.  Feel free to comment about any aspect - not only the courses themselves, but the balance of the coverage, neglected architects, unrepresented regions, and, especially, judgements that are 25 years out of date.  I cannot promise that all your concerns can be addressed, but I'd love to incorporate as many as possible into the agenda for my next meeting with the commissioning editor in, probably, a month's time.

Many thanks, in eager anticipation,

Mark Rowlinson.

Let's keep this one near the top for a day or two...

Mark,
The WAofG smiles at me daily from my bookshelf, and probably got me my MSc, so I would be happy to assist in ANY way I can to keep it topical. Please feel free to email me if I can help...

Martin.

I'm charmed that so many of you have taken the trouble to respond to my request.  The number of offers of help with contacts etc is immensely kind - you are true friends, though I have met none of you.  It'll not surprise you that Bandon/Pacific Dunes, Sand Dunes, Whistling Straits, and Friar's Head are heading the list of suggested inclusions so far.  Many thanks, indeed!  Mark.

I've had further kind responses and I think the thing that sticks out is that we must include the most outstanding examples of an architect's work and that goes for RTJ, Dye, Nicklaus, Fazio and company as well as Mackenzie, Tillie and so on.  Some of the current contents are not the best examples.  I'm certainly keen to reflect the finest new work such as Sand Hills, Bandon and so on.  On this site there are a great many correspondents with  an encyclopaedic knowledge of the great North American courses and some pretty thorough knowledge of Europe.  Can anyone point me to experts in the less familiar regions such as South America, Africa and the Far East?  

Mark,

I know of no finer authority on South African golf then fellow GCA'er Bob Huntley.  I suggest sending him an IM.  He would probably enjoy helping.

Mark

Your revision and edification in the 3rd Edition, 1991, has the same North American lineup by Charles Price that existed with the 1st edition in 1976, isn't that correct?

Without laboring through both volumes, what changes between those 15 years do you recognize now, and what will you be looking for since 1991?

I liked Tom Doak's input, and perhaps he could fill in for Charles Price's absence.  I bet Charles would like that as he was one of golf's greatest thinkers in modern times, IMHO.

Willie

Willie,

1991 was a minimal revision of what was there before.  It was the business of dealing with when a long par 4 had become a short par 5 and vice versa, such as the 1st at West Sussex.  It was minimal things such as the old 14th at Royal Melbourne - short par 5 or long par 4.  The club told me what is was at that time and it has probably changed every year ever sibce,

There was no question of changing major things apart from demoting Killarney to the gazetteer because the classic course had been split in two and we could insert Ballybunion.  The next edition was nothing to do with me.  It had then been taken over by Hamlyn and they asked the journalist Derek Lawrenson to make the next update, including a complete rewrite on Ballybunion - a completely new text, but I'm too self-effacing to replace his with mine.  I do not mean this in any disrespectful way to Derek, whom I know not, but his brief may not have been the same as mine.

I came back into the frame in the late 1990s and I have not had carte blanche to change everything.  That said, I have not known everything.  One of my biggest problems has been getting information out of clubs which simply cannot be bothered to respond.  

One of the things that has emerged from my initial posting on GCA is the huge respect that so many people have for the book and how they would like to contribute to its restoration as something of worth.  I am so grateful.  At last I am given some sort of quantitative evaluation of which courses should be promoted, demoted, deleted or introduced for the first time.  I get a genuine barometer.  In the end, of course, the publisher's budget will decide what I can and cannot do. But he will have had a professional appraisal of the task in hand from a pulling together of all your worthwhile comments.  Keep them coming in!  They are all very valuable!

Mark.

Mark

You are on the right track, I think.

Even an update on the golf ball, by Acushnet, should help pay the freight!

Willie

George - you own more than I do.  Your opinions will be the most valuable of all!

Mark.

Not bloody likely! The one thing I can offer is the perspective of the newer golfer who's dreaming of what else is out there.

Willie -

I've already received my email from Mark & am working on my current wish list. Can't wait for the latest update. It wasn't until your post that I realized that my post could imply I have enough copies - I don't think I can ever have enough of this book!