The ten greatest cities in the world for poker and golf.

« **on:** January 31, 2008, 05:25:54 PM »

I feel pretty good about Los Angeles being the number one given the greatness of the golf and the largest poker room in the world The Commerce club. Besides The Commerce you have at least five other excellent card rooms with an amazing variety of games. I also went out on a limb and put Bandon in the top ten based 90% on the great golf and the fun little game up at Coos.

Has anyone gone to Paris and played at The Aviation Club...I have not but have to believe Paris would be top ten. Atlantic City, Tunica, Biloxi, Madison WI, New Orleans, etc..etc..Maybe Vegas even though I think both the poker and golf are not up to standard.

Lets get some nominations for best poker/golf cities in the world and see if we can come up with a list.

Poker players are not afraid of a little ass time so as long as a great poker room is within one hours drive of a great course they might as well be side by side.

« **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2008, 05:41:24 PM »

As is most things Europe I know nothing. I just checked and it looks like London has some decent poker rooms. How about over in Ireland and Scotland?

Right now I'm leaning toward

LA
Paris
London
Bandon
Atlantic City

as a top five. with

Madison
Tunica
Biloxi
Vegas
New Orleans

rounding out the bottom.

« **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2008, 05:45:22 PM »

Do courses have to be public? I will assume so unless I hear otherwise. Some of this is word of mouth

Nominations:
Los Angeles
Biloxi MS (Beau Rivage/Fallen Oak or Grand/Grand Bear)
Atlantic City, NJ (Atlantic City CC, Borgata + Taj)
Paris, FRA (Aviation Club, Golf de Fontainebleau)
Las Vegas, NV (Bellagio/Wynn, Wolf Creek/Shadow Creek/pick)
Bandon, OR (apparently)
Foxwoods, CT (Lake of Isles, eh)
Aruba (Tierra del Sol)

Other places that I feel would have to be in the hunt, but have no personal or hearsay knowledge:

Bahamas
Tunica, MS
Petoskey, MI
London, ENG
Stoke-On-Trent, ENG
Detroit, MI (Leslie Park, UofM(?))
Reno

Also, Poker/golf cruises work - the last cruise I took had a Hold-Em Table, and I've heard there are ones that are more poker friendly.

« **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2008, 05:47:20 PM »

John,

You have to include San Diego. With Barona by itself, you have a strong contender. Other strong poker facilities include Sycuan, Viejas, and I'd assume Pala and Harrah's have a decent poker situation. Up the road another 20 minutes is Pechanga.

Golf-wise it's a little weaker but Barona is a strong leader. Torrey for all the bad-mouthing on here isn't as bad as advertised on the South, and the North is pretty.

« **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2008, 05:51:01 PM »

My uinformed top 10:

Los Angeles
Bandon
Las Vegas
Paris
London

Atlantic City
Biloxi
Petoskey
Macau
Bahamas

« **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2008, 05:51:59 PM »

Quote from: Ryan_Simper on January 31, 2008, 05:47:20 PM

John,

You have to include San Diego. With Barona by itself, you have a strong contender. Other strong poker facilities include Sycuan, Viejas, and I'd assume Pala and Harrah's have a decent poker situation. Up the road another 20 minutes is Pechanga.

Golf-wise it's a little weaker but Barona is a strong leader. Torrey for all the bad-mouthing on here isn't as bad as advertised on the South, and the North is pretty.

What does San Diego have in the way of great golf, though? Esp public Golf? Aviara and Torrey? Don't you have to stay at the Four Seasons to play Aviara?

« **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2008, 05:54:48 PM »

When I was at Barona they didn't have poker. It does not matter if the courses are public or private. I am however not in the slightest interested in private poker rooms.

« **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:10:44 PM »

John

Yet another example of your ignorance. The best poker games in Coos county are at Llyod's of Bandon, Monday and Thrusday nights.

« **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:12:51 PM »

Quote from: Justin Sadowsky on January 31, 2008, 05:45:22 PM

Stoke-On-Trent, ENG

Golf? Poker? Rain and redundancy were the key factors in my one and only visit.

My guess would be Dublin.

« **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:15:05 PM »

Joe,

Is that a private cash game. If so, does not count.

« **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:18:02 PM »

I personally didn't find the poker to be anything special in Aruba. Granted, I was there about 4 years ago and the big poker boom hadn't hit. Things may have changed since then.

John,

How about New Buffalo, MI? You've got the new Fourwinds Casino and Blue Chip not too far away. Lost Dunes, Dunes Club and Point O'Woods are all in close proximity to the area.

Indianapolis has the IPC (Indiana Poker Club) along with several good private and public golf options. It could qualify.

Maybe French Lick when the Dye course opens?

« **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:22:09 PM »

Melbourne would have to be on the list. Cannot vouch for the poker room but I know Melbourne has a casino. I am heading over in a month's time so I will let you know. The Sandbelt courses speak for themselves.

« **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:23:24 PM »

I'll bet the bay area is tough to beat. With Garden City Casion in San Jose, you are within an hour of Monterey(sans traffic) and San Francisco.

« **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:30:58 PM »

Scott,
Melbourne casino is the Crown. Sydney could also be on the included with Star City Casino and La Perouse.

« **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:40:16 PM »

JK

Melbourne has to rank right near the top.

Poker is massive in Melbourne. The biggest Poker room in the southern hemisphere (70 tables) and 3-4 times as big as Sydney. World Series of Poker main event winner Joe Hachem is regularly seen on the high stakes tables, among others.

Just had the Aussie Millions. $7 million main event prize pool puts it up there with the top WPT events.

THe golf courses are OK too. (3 of the world's top 60).

« **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:51:04 PM »

Melbourne is a solid lock top five. Thanks.

« **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2008, 06:58:55 PM »

The Seminole HardRock Casino in Tampa is one hour from World Woods, closer to the Tampa courses and Sarasota where Concession is getting high marks from the GCA crowd

« **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2008, 07:00:27 PM »

Quote from: John_Cullum on January 31, 2008, 06:58:55 PM

The Seminole HardRock Casino in Tampa is one hour from World Woods, closer to the Tampa courses and Sarasota where Concession is getting high marks from the GCA crowd

Seminole HardRock is a solid poker room, but not near the level of competition that Atlantic City has with the Borgata, Harrah's or the Tropicana.

Coincidentally, Harrah's owns Atlantic City CC and advertises the ability of their guests to play there quite heavily. Pit bosses have the ability to give out comp rounds.

« **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2008, 07:07:23 PM »

Quote from: Kyle Harris on January 31, 2008, 07:00:27 PM

Quote from: John_Cullum on January 31, 2008, 06:58:55 PM
The Seminole HardRock Casino in Tampa is one hour from World Woods, closer to the Tampa courses and Sarasota where Concession is getting high marks from the GCA crowd

Seminole HardRock is a solid poker room, but not near the level of competition that Atlantic City has with the Borgata, Harrah's or the Tropicana.

Coincidentally, Harrah's owns Atlantic City CC and advertises the ability of their guests to play there quite heavily. Pit bosses have the ability to give out comp rounds.

I will acknowledge that Atlantic City is hard to beat, except in January and February

« **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2008, 07:33:04 PM »

A round at Monte Carlo Golf Club with an evening at the Casino de Monte Carlo all during the week of the Monaco Gran Prix. Now that would be epic.

« **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2008, 07:38:43 PM »

Quote from: John Kavanaugh on January 31, 2008, 06:15:05 PM

Joe,

Is that a private cash game. If so, does not count.

No. Llyod's of Bandon is one of the local watering holes. I'm surprised somone so well versed in Bandon Dunes dosen't know Llyods.

« **Reply #21 on:** January 31, 2008, 07:53:42 PM »

Not too many preppy golfer types in Lylod's if I recall correctly-good place for a boilermaker though.

« **Reply #22 on:** January 31, 2008, 08:22:00 PM »

I'm not interested in illegal backroom games.

« **Reply #23 on:** January 31, 2008, 09:04:58 PM »

St. Louis could be a sleeper-- though probably in the second ten.

« **Reply #24 on:** January 31, 2008, 09:31:29 PM »

Verona NY - TurningStone Cascino

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