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PThomas

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Friar's Head greens
« on: December 20, 2007, 10:37:28 PM »
are they as good as Sand Hills"?  better??

they look AWESOME in the picture's of Ran's review
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

TEPaul

Re:Friar's Head greens
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2007, 09:16:26 AM »
Friars Head's greens, or at least a number of them, are probably a bit more architecturally complex than Sand Hills' greens.

John Kavanaugh

Re:Friar's Head greens
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2007, 09:22:07 AM »
Is it possible that the analytical brains of successful executives would find the greens at Atlantic more pleasing than at Friars Head?  How does chaos mix with relaxation?  I have always thought that the quirk in Scottish architecture partially works well there because of the culture.  I have not seen the greens at Friars Head in person but they just seem a bit too busy for people who live busy lives.

Mike_Cirba

Re:Friar's Head greens
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 09:30:13 AM »
Paul,

They are more complex, more sloped, and offer greater internal contour than those at Sand Hills, and I think the reason for that is simply that greens like this wouldn't work in the windy open expanse of Mullen, NE.  

Ian Andrew

Re:Friar's Head greens
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2007, 09:50:14 AM »
The interesting thing about those greens is how far they push the envelope. The collective greens are fascinating since some are so incredibly contoured and others are fairly gentle in relation. For example the hump in the ninth green is so large and aggressive that a three putt is a given if you find yourself on the wrong side. It certainly fits in wonderfully with the knolls and rolls along the fairway leading into the green.

The one that struck me as “potentially” over the top was the 7th. We had an upper back pin and after missing a 10 foot putt for birdie I found myself in the fairway behind the bunker because the ball would not stop as it worked its way down from tier to tier. Tommy pointed out that’s what happens on a “manly” green and perhaps I should have played intentionally short.

I don’t remember the back nine greens being as contoured – but may be that was the pins of the day.

Mike_Cirba

Re:Friar's Head greens
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2007, 09:59:17 AM »
The one that struck me as “potentially” over the top was the 7th. We had an upper back pin and after missing a 10 foot putt for birdie I found myself in the fairway behind the bunker because the ball would not stop as it worked its way down from tier to tier. Tommy pointed out that’s what happens on a “manly” green and perhaps I should have played intentionally short.


Ian,

One of the interesting things I observed on the 7th is that when the hole is cut left, particularly front left, it's best to actually miss the green just left with your approach.