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Jeff_Brauer

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World's Best Green?
« on: September 26, 2007, 11:04:11 PM »
No rules for selection, just your opinion of the world's greatest green.  You can do a first impression, and (later) do one upon reflection if you like.  For the truly obsessed or indecisive, lists of 2 to 100 graciously accepted!
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Jeff Loh

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 11:05:26 PM »
8th at Prairie Dunes
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Norbert P

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 12:51:28 AM »
I like . . .
 3rd @ Bandon Trails  
 14th Dornoch
 18 Tri-Mountain (Ridgefield WA)
 12th @ Bandon Dunes
 8th @ Pac Dunes
 17th Bayside, NE  (W/ Bunker in middle) Thanks, Scott S
 17th St. Andrews Old
 17th Prestwick
 #7 Barnbougle

#7 Barnbougle  "Little Devil"


(We were down dormie 3 on this hole (Began on back 9), we birdied from 30 feet and took it to the last hole before being outgunned by some great play.)  
 
 
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 01:04:52 PM by Slag Bandoon »
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Jordan Wall

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 12:58:08 AM »
Quote from: Slag Bandoon on September 27, 2007, 12:51:28 AM
I like . . .
 3rd @ Bandon Trails  
 14th Dornoch
 18 Tri-Mountain (Ridgefield WA)
 12th @ Bandon Dunes
 8th @ Pac Dunes
 16th ? Bayside, NE  (W/ Bunker in middle)
 17th St. Andrews Old
 17th Prestwick
 #7 Barnbougle
 
 

12th at Chambers Bay??
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Brett Hochstein

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2007, 01:41:59 AM »
18(?) Sitwell Park (way-back-when version). unreal, and looks like a blast to play

current versions i like and have experienced off top of head with bias toward diversity:

#6 Crystal Downs
#13 Kingsley Club
#9 Dutch Hollow
#3 Lost Dunes
#7 Crystal Downs
#15 Franklin Hills
# 4 Kingsley Club
#7 High Point
# 2 Crystal Downs

...well so much for that diversity thing
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Michael Robin

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2007, 02:09:36 AM »
7th at Ballyneal
8th at Ballyneal
12th at Ballyneal
17th at Ballyneal
9th at Ballyneal
10th at Ballyneal
6th at Ballyneal
5th at Ballyneal
2nd at Ballyneal
1st at Ballyneal
Practice Green at Ballyneal

 ;D
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Mark Chaplin

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2007, 03:06:21 AM »
3rd at Royal Cinque Ports is pretty special.

I take it Michael likes Ballyneal!
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Ryan Farrow

Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2007, 03:28:35 AM »
Quote from: Slag Bandoon on September 27, 2007, 12:51:28 AM
I like . . .
 3rd @ Bandon Trails  
 14th Dornoch
 18 Tri-Mountain (Ridgefield WA)
 12th @ Bandon Dunes
 8th @ Pac Dunes
 16th ? Bayside, NE  (W/ Bunker in middle)
 17th St. Andrews Old
 17th Prestwick
 #7 Barnbougle

#7 Barnbougle  "Little Devil"


(We were down dormie 3 on this hole (Began on back 9), we birdied from 30 feet and took it to the last hole before being outgunned by some great play.)  
 
 

Is this the Sitwell Park inspired green? Or is that at St. Andrews Beach?
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 03:29:11 AM by Ryan Farrow »
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Mark Pearce

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2007, 05:45:44 AM »
17 at Seaton Carew
11 at Alwoodley
13 at Muirfield
16 at North Berwick
13 at Elie
4 at Silloth
9 at Wolf Run
7 at Slaley Hall Hunting
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Scott Szabo

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2007, 08:36:21 AM »
Quote from: Slag Bandoon on September 27, 2007, 12:51:28 AM
I like . . .
 3rd @ Bandon Trails  
 14th Dornoch
 18 Tri-Mountain (Ridgefield WA)
 12th @ Bandon Dunes
 8th @ Pac Dunes
 16th ? Bayside, NE  (W/ Bunker in middle)
 17th St. Andrews Old
 17th Prestwick
 #7 Barnbougle

#7 Barnbougle  "Little Devil"


(We were down dormie 3 on this hole (Began on back 9), we birdied from 30 feet and took it to the last hole before being outgunned by some great play.)  
 
 

Slag,

I believe you mean the 17th at Bayside.  The 16th should be blown up and redone from scratch!
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Jim Franklin

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2007, 08:50:34 AM »
#2 Pine Valley
#7 Ballyneal
#14 Sand Hills (entire green site)
#6 Crystal Downs
#12 Chicago Golf Club
#11 Fishers Island
#6 NGLA
#15 Five Farms
#8 Cypress Point

to name a few...
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 02:20:23 PM by Jim Franklin »
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JC Jones

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2007, 08:55:54 AM »
Quote from: Brett Hochstein on September 27, 2007, 01:41:59 AM
18(?) Sitwell Park (way-back-when version). unreal, and looks like a blast to play

current versions i like and have experienced off top of head with bias toward diversity:

#6 Crystal Downs
#13 Kingsley Club
#9 Dutch Hollow
#3 Lost Dunes
#7 Crystal Downs
#15 Franklin Hills
# 4 Kingsley Club
#7 High Point
# 2 Crystal Downs

...well so much for that diversity thing

cant leave #5 at Kingsley off of this great list of Michigan greens.
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Adam Clayman

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2007, 09:21:41 AM »
I'm confident if Michael weren't a member his opinion would still be the same.

I'd add the 15th at Sebonack
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2007, 09:23:36 AM »
#2 Pine Valley
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Powell Arms

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2007, 09:24:32 AM »
Merion East #12
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JESII

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2007, 09:32:29 AM »
It took a while, thankfully Mr. Hurricane and Mike Nuzzo brought up Pine Valley #2...this would be like asking what is the most impressive ceiling in the world and leaving the Sistine Chapel off the list until about the 12th nomination...please people.

They just don't make'em like that anymore...

Disclaimer: I have seen a very sad percentage of the others listed on this thread so I might be a bit less than objective...but...do you remember that green? I'd bet Franklin would vote for it even if he had to putt his last time through...
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Michael Ryan

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2007, 09:34:50 AM »
10 WFW

I could list a bunch that I love, but that one is my favorite
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archie_struthers

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2007, 09:34:59 AM »
 8) ;D :D


Pretty hard to beat #2 at Pine Valley, given that there are about eight (8) greens within a green , the  elevation is unique, the conditions are typically flawless, and you can put pins in every quadrant of the green.

As always, ratings are impossibly personal, and tend to be over valued.

Crump's greens are singularly brilliant in that you can....under almost any condition , two putt even the most difficult green (like #2) with the proper application of knowledge and skill, other "great " greens that will be discussed lack this defining quality.


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John Kavanaugh

Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2007, 10:11:10 AM »
18 at Greywalls.
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John Kavanaugh

Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2007, 10:16:39 AM »
I won't...Have not touched a golf magazine in over a year.
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Jim Franklin

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2007, 10:17:46 AM »
Quote from: JES II on September 27, 2007, 09:32:29 AM


Disclaimer: I have seen a very sad percentage of the others listed on this thread so I might be a bit less than objective...but...do you remember that green? I'd bet Franklin would vote for it even if he had to putt his last time through...


Yes, I would still say it is one of if not the best greens around even though I didn't have to putt the last time ;D. We actually discussed this very topic at dinner the night before my big bird and after 36 on Saturday. Each of us ranked #2 as the best green at PV and one of the best anywhere. I loved TEPaul's Z putt story.

I want to add #8 Cypress Point to the list as well.
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John Kavanaugh

Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2007, 10:19:32 AM »
Who are Peper and Verdi and why would I care what they think?  Why would I believe a word they say and not just think it is an attempt to sell more ads or personal books?  Paid for play opinions stink.  I bet they would also pay some professional photo guy to stand on his head and take a picture from a crane looking backwards at a time of day when I am either asleep or at the bar.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2007, 10:19:49 AM »
The best green is tough, but 17 at Sand Hills comes to mind.  
Yesterday I played Aronimink and as a collection they are brilliant.  They have been "restored" to Ross' original designs.  From looking at the drawings it is hard to know how much slope and undulations Ross meant, but they had as much movement as any I have played in a long time.  
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JESII

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2007, 10:23:50 AM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on September 27, 2007, 10:19:32 AM
Who are Peper and Verdi and why would I care what they think?  Why would I believe a word they say and not just think it is an attempt to sell more ads or personal books.



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Jim Franklin

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Re:World's Best Green?
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2007, 10:23:51 AM »
Quote from: Shivas Schmidt on September 27, 2007, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on September 27, 2007, 10:19:32 AM
Who are Peper and Verdi and why would I care what they think?  

John, you are either brazenly provocative or astonishingly uneducated.

That's funny.
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