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Paul Richards

FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« on: September 06, 2007, 06:41:18 AM »
As a lover of the second-oldest Tour event, and one that was considered a 'Major' for many, many years, I was upset and saddened to see the name 'Western Open' be taken away and replaced this season by the PGA Tour.  

Not only has my home course hosted four Western Opens through the years, but the list of the Champions at Beverly is very impressive - Chick Evans, Arnold Palmer (in a Monday, 18-hole playoff victory over Jack Nicklaus and Julius Boros), Jack Nicklaus and, ahem, Hugh Royer.

Also, I was fortunate enough to caddy in the 1982 Western Open at Butler.  My guy (Curtis Worley) missed the cut, but being able to walk 'inside the ropes' was an unforgettable experience.

Now the Western name is gone, and professional golf will only be in Chicago (the third-largest market) every 3 years.  This is sad.

Here's more from GCA-contributor, Tim Cronin in today's Daily Southtown:




PGA'S PLAYOFF IDEA SHOULD BE SHIPPED TO A TRASH BIN



September 6, 2007


For eight months, the PGA Tour publicity machine touted the coming of the FedEx Cup playoffs as the greatest invention for golf since the metal wood.

It was said everyone would play in all the playoff rounds for which they were eligible. It was touted everyone was champing at the bit to tee it up in a series that would rival the majors.

It was a can't-miss proposition.

Instead, it's a can-miss reality. Tiger Woods missed the first week of the playoffs. Ernie Els missed the second week of the playoffs. Phil Mickelson and Padraig Harrington are missing the third week of the playoffs, which is this week at Cog Hill Golf & Country Club.

How do you like it so far, Federal Express executives? Is the Tour delivering on the multimillion-dollar investment?

The FedEx Cup has holes in it, not the least of which is the concept that Chicagoans will take a day off to watch golf after Labor Day. Woods, who has seen a gallery or two in his time, even in a pro-am at 7 in the morning, had a word for the lack of a throng following him around Dubsdread beginning at that hour Wednesday: "Quiet."

That's because everyone from the age of 6 to 18 who might have been here scrambling for an autograph was in school instead, learning how to conjugate verbs rather than control wedge shots.

"Today was a pretty light day," Woods said of his audience after scoring 4-under-par 67. "Hopefully, this event will be like it normally is here in July. Hopefully, we'll have the same kind of atmosphere and everybody will get fired up about it."

The Western Open is masquerading as the BMW Championship this week, and from the looks of Cog Hill, Lemont might as well be in the Alps. There's so much Euro-style decoration -- which is to say the bland leading the bland -- one half-expects to hear the von Trapp family singing "Edelweiss" come Sunday afternoon on the 18th green.

There's $7 million available this week, which has enticed 66 of the 70 eligible players to happen by. There's $35 million in deferred bonus compensation for the playoff participants, which numbered 144 at the start even though the money is split 150 ways.

The winner gets $10 million credited tax-free, and growing, to his PGA Tour piggy bank and can't touch it until he's 45 or older, depending on when he retires.

Golfers retire? To what?

The players can't understand the pay scheme. The public can't understand how it's a playoff if you can skip a week. This week must be the wild-card weekend to Mickelson, who skipped town after schmoozing Bearing Point customers -- that's the name on his visor, for which he gets a bundle -- Tuesday at Medinah.

Pro golfers pick up millions with monotonous regularity, so it isn't the payout that fans have a problem with. It's the idea that an ill-conceived points system had the points reset before the playoffs, wiping out Woods' 11,445-point lead achieved during the "regular season" and trimming it to a mere thousand points.

NASCAR-style.

Is it smart for professional golf, which has been around for more than a century, to try to emulate an auto racing series that only in the last decade caught the fancy of a slice of the public and has suffered from declining television ratings the last two years?

It must be, because that's what Tour commissioner Tim Finchem and his battalion of vice presidents have done.

It isn't working. Never mind what TV foofs such as Jim Nantz and Dan Hicks say. Nobody talks about this outside of golf tournament press rooms. The first playoff tournament was drubbed in the television ratings by the Little League World Series. Last week's ended this week, and while the ratings went up to a 4.0 overnight for NBC's Monday broadcast, that utopia ends Sunday. At 3:15 p.m., will you be watching the Bears or a Tiger on television? Will you watch next week's Tour Championship from Atlanta at all?

And next year, when the Western Open is played at Bellerive Country Club outside of St. Louis, will you care at all?

The FedEx Cup, for however long it lasts -- Federal Express has to have an out clause in its six-year contract, should the concept not deliver -- will not be the be-all and end-all to the public that Finchem and Co. want it to be.

Four in a row doesn't work if the stars don't play, and aren't made to play, all four. (How about cumulative score, but miss the cut and you're out of the overall Cup? Low 16-round score wins. It's simple, and it connects the dots that now sit separately in New York, Boston, Chicago and Atlanta.)

Chicago, as an average four-day attendance of 150,220 over the last decade proves, holds the Western Open dear to its golfing bosom and will continue to if given the opportunity. Corporate sales were great this year and ticket sales are said to be up 15 percent, but what happens in September of 2009, after the field trip to Bellerive?

In large measure, people pay attention to golf four weeks a year. The Masters is springtime in paradise. The U.S. Open is pros fighting for par. The British Open is a return to the roots of the game. The PGA is the big finish. Throw in the Ryder Cup every other year, and that's it across the country. It's also that way with the players. Maybe this works with a 13-month year, but otherwise, is there a place on the calendar for it?

"There really isn't," Woods said. "If the schedule is this short, there really isn't."

If Woods isn't on board, the FedEx Cup is left unclaimed on the loading dock. Mark it "damaged goods."

Tim Cronin can be reached at
tcronin@dailysouthtown.com
or (708) 633-5948.


« Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 07:11:17 AM by Paul Richards »
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Rich Goodale

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 07:18:23 AM »
As an avid lover of the game of golf, and one who grew up with its growth in the post-war years in the USA, let me say that the "FedEx Cup" defines the regrettably slangy but undeniably apposite phrase "Jumps the Shark."  I'd write a letter to Mr. Finchem about this, but would not expect a reply, even if he knew who I am, which he does not.  He, as are others responsible for the game, is living in a dream world in which short term cash flows are mistaken for long term sources of income and strength.

The US PGA Tour is dying a slow and not terribly painful death.  It's only saving grace is that it is less moribund than the European Tour, which is on life support, and the Australian Tour, which is already dead.  The Japanese Tour survives, but in continuing irrelevance to the rest of the golfing world.

Greg Norman had it right, 15 years or so ago.  Start with the 4 majors.  Then add on a world tour, with only the very top (30? 50?) players involved, on a very fixed/family friendly schedule.  Underlie that with 3-5 regional tours (US, Europe, Japan, etc.) which would be open to the world tour players as well as locals.  Underlie them with numerous "challenge" tours.  Make the "Players Championship" of each of the regional tours sub-majors.  Bring back or enhance the local and individual character and history of the best events such as the Western Open (and the Crosby, the Memorial, the Heritage, the Irish, etc.).

Tiger will take it this way, sooner rather than later, whether or not Finchem and the US PGAT get involved.  As Dylan said....


Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand


My guess is that they will be more likely be hit by a bus....

Rich
« Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 07:20:41 AM by Richard Farnsworth Goodale »

Steve_ Shaffer

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2007, 07:37:58 AM »
Tim Cronin said it the best so far. His mention of a 4 tournament cumulative score finale to the end of the season is so simple and understandable that it's amazing that I've not seen this from the press pundits and commentators. Why didn't Finchem and his gang come up with this idea instead of this NASCAR inspired points chase?

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PThomas

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2007, 07:55:25 AM »
a great article

is the Fed EX Cup dead in the water-- already??

Paul - I agree so heartedly with your thoughts about the  - I can't believe I am typing this - the FORMER  :'( Western Open....the ultimate proof of Finchem worrying more about an easy buck than the traditions of the game

I wonder if the people of Chicagoland understand that there will NOT be golf in Chicago every year...I'm betting most don't

traditions and history are such  key part of every sport.....what Tiger is trying to do, for example, is become the undisputed greatest player of all time, which is why remembering the exploits of all the former great players is so important

on what level can it possibly make sense to take golf out of the 2nd (3rd? biggest city of the country when it was well attended every year, and one where Tiger came every year but one?   I really wish someone can explain this to me

getting rid of the Western REALLY pisses me off...I sent an email to the Tour but got no response.....maybe some of us can think of a more effective form of protest

Finchem REALLY screwed this one up
« Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 11:44:07 AM by Paul Thomas »
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Steve Kline

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2007, 08:10:18 AM »
Farndworth - you're absolutely right on this one.

JohnV

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2007, 08:37:05 AM »
Paul,  I too regret the loss of the name "Western Open" from history.  Especially when they refer to the past winners as things like "Former BMW Championship winners" or some such thing.  I wrote an e-mail to BMW earlier this year about this.  I got a formulaic reply back but at least I got something.  Perhaps if enough people wrote them it might get changed.

Also, as soon as BMW moves along and another company starts sponsoring it, there is no reason to believe it won't change back.  Tournaments go through many changes in name.

As for its only being in Chicago every 3 years, the Western moved around for years.  The claim of being a traditionalist and then decrying the movement of the event seems to be somewhat incongruous to me.

I like the idea of the championship being a cumulative 4 event score.  That would definitely force players to play in all four events to have a chance to win and by skipping one week they would eliminate themselves from all the rest.

That being said, I think a 3 week playoff would be better and they might stick an off week in there where an event for all those not still eligible could be held.  That way nobody should be able to complain about playing so many weeks in a row.

Mike Nuzzo

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2007, 09:07:35 AM »

Who won the west coast swing in 2003?


Who cares.  What is the difference between the west coast swing and this tournament of poses?

I'll say the cup jumped the shark when they had commercials comparing it to Nicklaus' 18 major achievement...
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John_Cullum

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2007, 09:14:35 AM »
Mike

I enjoyed the reference to "the FIRST to win 18 majors"
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John_Cullum

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2007, 09:16:47 AM »
By the nameWestern Open, I assume there was a qualifier at some point in history that quietly disappeared for the traditional PGA Tour exempt format. Does anyone know when this change took place?
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Dan Kelly

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2007, 09:20:33 AM »
M. Goodale nails it.

(Apropos of nothing: Interesting that the PGA Tour's "jumping the shark" causes a person to revive a proposal by "The Great White Shark.")

Personally, I think that the Tour's biggest problem (other than Tiger's being mortal -- so far as we know) is the week-after-week sameness of the thing: 72 holes, stroke play, on long and unmemorable golf courses.

Give me some match play.

Give me some best-ball.

Give me World Team Golf. (It didn't work for tennis. Could it work for golf -- if the money were good enough?)


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PThomas

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2007, 09:42:51 AM »
Paul,  I too regret the loss of the name "Western Open" from history.  Especially when they refer to the past winners as things like "Former BMW Championship winners" or some such thing.  I wrote an e-mail to BMW earlier this year about this.  I got a formulaic reply back but at least I got something.  Perhaps if enough people wrote them it might get changed.

Also, as soon as BMW moves along and another company starts sponsoring it, there is no reason to believe it won't change back.  Tournaments go through many changes in name.

As for its only being in Chicago every 3 years, the Western moved around for years.  The claim of being a traditionalist and then decrying the movement of the event seems to be somewhat incongruous to me.

I like the idea of the championship being a cumulative 4 event score.  That would definitely force players to play in all four events to have a chance to win and by skipping one week they would eliminate themselves from all the rest.

That being said, I think a 3 week playoff would be better and they might stick an off week in there where an event for all those not still eligible could be held.  That way nobody should be able to complain about playing so many weeks in a row.

Hi John

you are correct re the Western formerly moving around, of course

I guess i should have said something like the recent tradition of the Western in Chicago

read some unbelievable Finchem quotes in the paper this a.m.:

"I think [the Fed Ex Cup]is alredy a big success"

"we're seeing a surge of interest among the fans"

"We hope the fans will support what we're doing here [in Chicago], even though they're not happy we're gone so much"

and probably this year's award winner for "Best Spin":

"I'm not happy about [marquee players such as Tiger woods, Ernie Els, and this week Phil] not playing, but it has a positive effect on bringing in people's interest"

what a joke




« Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 09:44:20 AM by Paul Thomas »
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

RJ_Daley

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2007, 10:38:07 AM »
I guess many golf savvy fans could all come up with a better system, play-off scheme than this.  There probably are as many system and schemes to stage this as there are passionate fans that would propose a variation of what is now in place.  

But, which of your alternative play-off systems could you sell to enough sponsors to make it viable and worthy of the high status in the professional golf game that it must command to be credible as the big prize for the year?

I also question many of the things that have been brought up, on the top of the list being the moving around from Chicago as one of the biggest sports markets, and the fact that it is on the weekend school starts, pro football starts, college hits full stride, and baseball is in the pennant race fever.  It was stupid to can the Western Open that had become a Chicago identity, mid-summer.  

But, there are a lot of pawns to move around logistically and business wise in this tour management game.  I'm not a fan of Finchem, but I do have sympathy for the almost unwinnable challenge he faces to oversee the creation of something to keep the game he oversees relevant after the PGA finishes the 4th major of the year.  Els said Finchem didn't listen enough to the players when they planned this.  I think he must listen, but he also must be the commish and once the thing is set, demand that it is given a chance.  If it fails, he is gone... That is his skin in the game... Who then will step up... one of the pundits?
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Kalen Braley

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2007, 10:46:05 AM »
I know this thread is all over the place concerning fedex cup playoffs, tournaments, locations and so forth...

But isn't this the best field that the Western Open...err BMW Open has ever seen?

Sure Phil is missing, but everyone else who is anybody will be there...

Cabell Ackerly

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2007, 10:53:39 AM »
Tim brings up an interesting question...

The winner can't cash out on the annuity until he is 45, or he retires - whichever is later.

When exactly does a professional golfer retire? What if you play part time on the PGA Tour? What if you play on the Senior Tour? Would Jack Nicklaus be eligible to cash out now? There seems to be a lot of gray area there.

Tim_Cronin

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2007, 11:22:07 AM »
Gents,
Thanks for the kind words.
John Cullum: The Western Open was wide-open for a long time. In the 1920s, fields were often over 200, sometimes 250. The first qualifier was in 1930, then not used again (and not needed) until 1960 in Detroit. The Monday qualifier (standard in tournaments sanctioned by the PGA of America Tournament Bureau/PGA Tour) became a four-spotter with the all-exempt tour's start in 1983.
Kalen Braley: As I said in the column, all 30 top-money winners played in 1962. We've got 28 of 30 now (no Mickelson or Harrington). 1921 was pretty good too: Hagen, Jones (only appearance), Sarazen, Hutchison, Barnes and Mehlhorn.
Leaders at 10:20 a.m. CT: Rose at -5 (through 8 ), Byrd,Cink and Scott (-4), Woods T5 in a traffic jam at -3.
It poured for 15 minutes Wednesday, so they're playing lift, clean and cheat.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 11:22:40 AM by Tim_Cronin »
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Kalen Braley

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2007, 11:28:46 AM »
Gents,
Thanks for the kind words.
John Cullum: The Western Open was wide-open for a long time. In the 1920s, fields were often over 200, sometimes 250. The first qualifier was in 1930, then not used again (and not needed) until 1960 in Detroit. The Monday qualifier (standard in tournaments sanctioned by the PGA of America Tournament Bureau/PGA Tour) became a four-spotter with the all-exempt tour's start in 1983.
Kalen Braley: As I said in the column, all 30 top-money winners played in 1962. We've got 28 of 30 now (no Mickelson or Harrington). 1921 was pretty good too: Hagen, Jones (only appearance), Sarazen, Hutchison, Barnes and Mehlhorn.
Leaders at 10:20 a.m. CT: Rose at -5 (through 8 ), Byrd,Cink and Scott (-4), Woods T5 in a traffic jam at -3.
It poured for 15 minutes Wednesday, so they're playing lift, clean and cheat.

Tim,

Surely you jest by making reference to a field in 1962 and 1921....

Like or dislike the format all you want but the fact is, its brought Chicago the best field for the event in decades, and perhaps ever, because you also have more or less #s 31-70 in attendance as well.

Dan Kelly

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 11:35:16 AM »
Gents,
Thanks for the kind words.

Gents --

You could do Mr. Cronin a greater favor than kind words.

You could visit the Web site where his article (presumably copyrighted) is posted, so that his employers and his employers' advertisers will know that you read his piece.

You'll find it at http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/cronin/index.html

The newspaper business is in enough trouble as it is, without having articles copied and pasted to other Web sites.

Thanks.

Dan
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Phil McDade

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2007, 11:35:49 AM »
It is hard to gin up much sympathy for Finchem. He oversees the world's most marketable and popular athlete (person, really), several other likable stars (Mickelson, for starters, despite the popular view here on GCA), no real scandals involving drugs or payola (Mickelson taking his kids to school rates as a major controversy...), corporate types falling all over themselves to be a part of the game, purses going up, up, up, and Q-ratings for a TV audiences that must be sky-high (relative to other sports). If one takes the long view, considering where the sport was 30 years ago, Finchem must think he drew the luckiest straw in the world.

Oddly, I sort of admire him for trying to maintain interest in the game post-PGA major. But it's sort of a delicate balance he must tread -- one might argue no one's bigger than the game, or the tour, but Tiger pretty much is, and others like Mickelson are pretty close to being there. When Woods, Lefty, Els and Harrington (that's 20 majors right there, four of the 10 best golfers in the world, including arguably its three best) skip out on major portions of the playoffs, it needs some significant tweaking. The end of the season grind for these guys (meaning, the very top ones) is too long, in my view, and Finchem might be better off interspersing some second-tier tourneys, for guys fighting for their cards, and then having a big season-ending tourney for the top 30 in October, maybe timed just before the World Series.

The two tournaments so far have been fun to watch, and have produced some pretty compelling golf -- maybe not at the level of a major, but better by far than the usual PGA tourney-of-the-week.


George Pazin

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2007, 12:02:33 PM »
Tim brings up an interesting question...

The winner can't cash out on the annuity until he is 45, or he retires - whichever is later.

When exactly does a professional golfer retire? What if you play part time on the PGA Tour? What if you play on the Senior Tour? Would Jack Nicklaus be eligible to cash out now? There seems to be a lot of gray area there.


The other question I had regarding the annuity (and maybe this will simply show my ignorance of annuities in general) is: Is the $10 million in present dollars or the retirement amount?

The reason I ask is because someone like DLIII is likely a lot closer to retirement than someone like Sergio, so if it's not present value dollars, isn't the older guy effectively being paid a lot more?

As for the whole Fedex Cup thing, I pretty much echo what Mike Nuzzo says about the west coast swing. It seems totally arbitrary and thus meaningless.
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Kalen Braley

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2007, 12:06:38 PM »

The two tournaments so far have been fun to watch, and have produced some pretty compelling golf -- maybe not at the level of a major, but better by far than the usual PGA tourney-of-the-week.



Well said Phil,

And while I couldn't give one crap about the Fedex Cup and who gets the $10 Million annuity, the fact remains that this format has brought all of the best players together for 4 consecutive weeks.  And these fields are stronger than pretty much any other field all year, including the majors.

What remains to be seen is the level of participation for next year and if more players choose to opt out of the events, especially if they know they are guranteed to get thru to the next week.

Cabell Ackerly

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2007, 12:07:08 PM »

The other question I had regarding the annuity (and maybe this will simply show my ignorance of annuities in general) is: Is the $10 million in present dollars or the retirement amount?


present day dollars...$10 million dollars is deposited into an account

Dan Kelly

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2007, 12:09:02 PM »
[quote author=George Pazin
The reason I ask is because someone like DLIII is likely a lot closer to retirement than someone like Sergio, so if it's not present value dollars, isn't the older guy effectively being paid a lot more?

Quote

I don't know the answer to your question -- but I do know that DLIII has nothing to worry about this year!
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Bob_Huntley

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2007, 12:33:38 PM »

The other question I had regarding the annuity (and maybe this will simply show my ignorance of annuities in general) is: Is the $10 million in present dollars or the retirement amount?





present day dollars...$10 million dollars is deposited into an account



Cabell,

Are you sure about that?

Bob

Sean_A

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2007, 12:46:10 PM »

The other question I had regarding the annuity (and maybe this will simply show my ignorance of annuities in general) is: Is the $10 million in present dollars or the retirement amount?





present day dollars...$10 million dollars is deposited into an account



Cabell,

Are you sure about that?

Bob

Bob

It was my understanding that the prize was a $10 million deposit today in an annuity which is tax free (presumably on the interest rather than the capital) and collectable at 45 or when the player retires.  

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Rich Goodale

Re:FedEx Cup stinks - bring back the Western Open!
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2007, 12:46:58 PM »
Cabell

Sir Bob has the right instincts, as usual.

It is $500k/year for 20 years which equates to about $4 million in real money (or about 150,000 pounds Sterling at the likely future exhange rate).

I think that Ed McMahon designed the award package........

Rich

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