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Jay Flemma

I was thinking of this piece for Golf Observer or my website...its for people who are not as savvy about Doak as the rest of you.  But I hope you find it interesting.

Readers of Mark Twain’s classic novel A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court will note many remarkable similarities between Twain’s resourceful, noble, and hilarious protagonist Hank Morgan who forces the 19th century on the 6th and the equally ahead-of-his-time, progressive thinking, paradigm-shifting Tom Doak.

When you meet Doak, you are struck by the same four attributes which embody Twain’s Connecticut Yankee:  his candid simplicity, his encyclopaedic knowledge of his topic, the homespun pleasantness of his company, and his penchant for bluntly speaking his mind.  (“More people should try it” he laments briskly). Doak shares this character trait with another hip-shooter, the great writer Hunter S. Thompson (and with your author) – he cannot help but tell the truth, even if it creates a bit of a stir.

Like Hank Morgan, Doak is remarkably ahead of the industry, shifting its models and solidifying his philosophy with each passing course that he builds.  Like Morgan, he saw a better world was possible and he fought tirelessly for it.  That’s Doak’s greatest legacy to us; not only great courses, but the underlying philosophy which redefines what a great course is while also bestowing the feel of the Old World from which the game originally sprung.

Doak even had euphemistic “fights with crowbars” in his youth as Morgan did, earning him the misnomer “Le Infante Terrible,” but once Pete Dye, the Sir Launcelot of golf course architects retires, Doak, as Sir Galahad shall take over golf design world’s post of Siege Perilous.   Certainly his host of followers are indeed convinced of his virtue and are as rabid as any fans of any sports franchise.

Even his gibberish enraptures those hanging on every word.  Morgan achieved “miracles” while uttering ridiculous “magic words” like "Constantinopolitanischerdudelsackspfeifenmachersgesellschafft!" (that’s “THE BAGPIPE MANUFACTURERS COMPANY OF CONSTANTINOPLE!” spoken in German).  Similarly, Doak makes us scratch our heads working out mutterings like “Solving the paradox of proportionality lies at the core of golf course architecture.”  That one set off every dork alarm in Michigan.  When I understand that one fully, I’ll break it down for you, but you see how the Cornell education comes out in strange intellectual bursts.

Yet Doak has two critical differences from Twain’s Morgan.  Doak has learned the wisdom not to challenge the industry to its face with unbridled hubris like he did in youth.  While Morgan challenged all the knights to battles face to face, Doak simply lets his courses find their own level of acclaim.  Moreover, Doak does not act rashly or capriciously as Morgan did.  Gone is the time where Doak will have a devil-may-care attitude toward competitors and detractors.  Perhaps this came from raising his family.  When a person has children, when they pick a fight, they spill the blood of their dependants as well as their own.

Perspicacity and bluntness – that’s Doak.  Erudition, yet earthiness (literally and figuratively) – that’s Doak too.  He’s cannot escape his Cornell education and his U.K. scholarship, but he’s also Connecticut and Michigan.  He’s a man of the dirt, yet remarkably urban.  The man leads the vanguard of our great new movement in golf architecture, yet relies completely on his team.  His love/hate relationship with fame successfully tempers the heady wine of his global popularity and acclaim.  Creative and puckish, yet reserved and respectful of tradition; driven and devoted Doak sees a better golf world and drives us there fearlessly.

I was once told by someone that the ultimate measure of a person’s greatness is whether they created at least one indisputable masterpiece once on their lifetime.  Doak has three to date and the tally keeps rising.  Luckily he’s just hitting his prime.  As he grow older, more wiser and more refined, we’ll reap the benefits, one great course after another.

Tim Pitner

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What are Doak's three classics--Pacific Dunes, Barnbougle Dunes and Ballyneal?  

Why those three and have you played them all, Jay?  I'm not trying to play some Mucciesque gotcha game; I'm just wondering if these are your informed judgments or someone else's.  

paul cowley

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If I could speak for Jay I'd say they were his....and I like the enthusiasm he brings to his writing.
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

Jay Flemma

I've played alot more than three, but the three to which I refer as his masterpieces are PD, Ballyneal and Barnbougle (the only if the three indisputable masterpieces I have not played).  But I also got to Apache, Beechtree and High Pointe.

By the way...I'm gonna put my money on this...Rock Creek Cattle ranch will be the fourth...if there isn't a fourth already...anyone wanna chime on with Lost Dunes or stone eagle?

By the way, the footnote did not show up, but the "Siege Perilous" was the title (and seat of the round table) given to the knight destined to find the Holy Grail.  Depending on which version of the Arthurian legend you believe, it's either Percival or Galahad.

...and thank you Paul!
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 07:12:21 PM by Jay Flemma »

Doug Ralston

Jesus;

At the risk of further isolation, I gotta reinterate a comment from the wise Daffy Duck: "Hol-l-ld still stomach ...... don't turn over now".

Can the sucking sounds get louder? ::)

Doug

Jay Flemma

Thanks Doug!  That's a lucid and astute commentary and remarkably polite as well ;D

Doug Ralston

Jay;

Impolite? Perhaps, though I doubt it is possible to be as impolite as some have been to me.

But I find it hard to believe TD could even withstand the religious fervor which is attributed to him here for long. Please do not misunderstand my point. While I have been unable to play any of his masterpieces, I have seen enough of them here to have great admiration for them. They do indeed appear to be masterworks. Perhaps someday .......

But your comments, and many in this and other threads, go way beyond admiration for his work. You shamanize his offerings as divine, like no other ideas could be worthy. Well I hope your obvious prayers are NOT granted ...... that courses of the future are made exclusively on his model.

I HAVE played courses of other great architects, who create in a differing style. Foster, Wilson, Hurdzan and many other [yes, including even Art Hills], all create ideas that we can hope will also inspire those of the future. Ideas, yes, quite different from the Old World early works that inspire Tom Doak. I definitely want the glorious past to be inspiration for a lot of future course work. Be also the new ideas of Fazio, Engh etc are worth carrying on and expanding upon.

Jay, there is a great difference between the idea of inspiration and the creation of dogma. Doak indeed provides great inspiration, such as he himself seems to have taken from those earlier masters. I hope and believe he does not want it to be dogmatic, with all other ideas stymied or made to seem of lesser value.

Thus my comments. Sorry if you find thme too personal.

Doug

Jay Flemma

OK...your last post gives better context and detail.

All I have to say is this...if I was performing coitus, do you think I'd have said "he set off every dork alarm in Michigan?"

Yes I know many here have canonized him...but you have to admit...PD and Ballyneal are downright transcendent.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.  Please go play some of them soon because if you disagree I am totally open to lucid intellectual debate on the subject.  I asked the title of the thread as a question...if he's not Hank Morgan, tell me why...but read the book too...tell me you do or dont see the similarity...I thnk its striking enough to write about it.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 08:17:49 PM by Jay Flemma »

Doug Ralston

Hehe Jay;

I have to admit I would love to play them. The pix certainly look sweet.

Sorry if my postings are a bit edgy. I will try to do better.

Doug

PS: I have not read the book, just seen the movie. That is never as good, so you now have impelled me to find the book. But wasn't the protagonist bringing the ideas of present into the past, rather than, Doak bringing the ideas of the past into the present?
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 08:25:49 PM by Doug Ralston »

Jay Flemma

Oooh I like your counter-analogy about bringing the future into the pas and vice versa...that's a good point.  Can I use that?

My fave part of the book is when Morgan teaches the knights baseball...but they wont play without wearing their armor!  can you see Sir launcelot sliding into second like an iron clad crashing into a sand bar!

Doug Ralston

So, you are claiming the cricket was inspired by baseball, and not vica versa?  :o

Doug

Kalen Braley

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So, you are claiming the cricket was inspired by baseball, and not vica versa?  :o

Doug

I would never insult baseball by mentioning cricket in the same sentence with it.  I can appreciate the worlds passion for soccer, even though Americans don't.  I can appreciate rugby, both rubgy league and union, even thought americans don't.  I've even watched hurling as well as curling a few times and thought they are pretty cool.  And I especially love Aussie rules football, that is just sweet, can't get enough of it...

But...I'll never for the life of me understand watching cricket.  I'd rather sit and stare at a fly on the wall.  That being said I've seen the looonnnng matches, as well as the one day matches, and I just don't get it...  

Tim Pitner

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I've played alot more than three, but the three to which I refer as his masterpieces are PD, Ballyneal and Barnbougle (the only if the three indisputable masterpieces I have not played).  

Jay, nothing personal and maybe I'm just being difficult, but I have a bit of a problem with a golf course reviewer proclaiming a course to be an "indisputable classic" when he has not played the course.  

BTW, nothing I've seen of Barnbougle indicates that it's anything but a great course.  

Jay Flemma

Thanks Tim.  That makes one of us.  Was there anything that leads you to opine on whether the central premise...Doak as Hank Morgan...has merit?  Remember, I have not officially published the piece so I'm free to make changes before I submit to pub/editor.

Ron Kern

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And some of you wonder why more golf course architects don't post on Golf Club Atlas' Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group...

Jay Flemma

And some of you wonder why more golf course architects don't post on Golf Club Atlas' Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group...

If you have something to criticize...if you think Doak is slighted or that something I said chilled speech, by all means explain yourself...I'm all ears.

You know, when Tom and I spoke about the articles I have written about him he did say that at least I wasn't regurgitating the same stuff everyone else was writing.

Tom Doak, are you offended?

Ron, what did I say that offended you?
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 11:27:08 PM by Jay Flemma »

Tim Bert

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I'll tread lightly with my opinion because you seem to be taking offense to people's reactions even though you chose to post the piece for review.  Not sure I fully understand the intended target audience, so I can't properly judge its merit in that respect.

I'm not sure I fully get the comparisons, but let me preface this by saying I haven't met Tom Doak and it's been 20 years since I read the book.  To me it seems like much of what Doak brings to the table relates to an older time.  He's actually bringing the past into the future and making improvements as he sees fit.  He's heavily influencing the present and future with the past.  It seems the book was much the opposite.


Doak has learned the wisdom not to challenge the industry to its face with unbridled hubris like he did in youth...

Gone is the time where Doak will have a devil-may-care attitude toward competitors and detractors.  


Have you seen the Michelangelo thread?  Maybe not quite the Confidential Guide days, but he still seems willing to challenge the industry.



As he grow older, more wiser and more refined, we’ll reap the benefits, one great course after another.


In fairness, you did mention this hasn't made it to the editor yet...

As he grows older, more wise and more refined, we’ll reap the benefits, one great course after another.

I think some of Doug's initial reaction probably stems from the fact that Doak is the topic here.  You could have picked just about any other big name gca and posted a piece like this without that reaction but Doak is so present (and often polarizing) here that you are always going to get a rise out of some folks here with an opinion piece like this.  Most here publicly or privately admire Tom's work and contributions to the game, but it is stuff like this (right or wrong) that rubs people the wrong way.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 11:29:20 PM by Tim Bert »

Jay Flemma

Look in the spirit of open and honest discussion -Tim you hit on something particularly accurate.  You are right...on the Michelangelo thread and on others, Tom has been critical and perhaps even a bit glib.  in that way, some might say he still is prickly.  but even Tom admitted that to me when he said (and this is in the rest of the chapter so I am not divulging anything here) "I hate being called prickly as any prickly person would."

Great humor and great candor that was.

OK...let me ask the question, then.  To what extent do all of you think that I should highlight the moments when Tom is still le infante terrible as opposed to the kind, generous Tom that shares his knowledge and hosts us at his clubs?  I felt I honestly and openly and accurately mentioned these things, but put them in a context in which we can better understand his complexity.

When teaching those who know little about him, how much do you feel I SHOULD highlight the "other side?"  

Maybe I should have posted the entirety of the chapter...where I say he is still a cdontradiction in terms...I feel that shines thourgh in this short piece...not as much when in the context of the whole chapter.

Please appreciate that I am being open and honest with this next bit and that you are seeing the thought process of a writer as he is working.  I still believe Tom is the hardest of all nine architects I interviewed to get an accurate pulse on.  

Ron Kern, tell me if I'm wrong, but did you mean that you thought architects might not want to come on here because they would lose privacy and have minutiae discussed that was too deep and personal?  If that's the case, I'm sorry I was prickly because that is a valid observation, but again, one I thought I handled gracefully and intelligently.  I see nothing at all offensive about what I wrote with the exception of my little joke about the dork alarm.  I am NOT taking that out.  Its harmless fun and accurate.  I stand by it.

However, Ron if you feel that my whole article is somehow offensive, I must disagree.  I have made an informed attempt to compare him to Morgan.  If any of you reads the book ACYIKAC, I challenge you to NOT find striking similarities.  yes one brought the future to the past and the other thepast to the future...but look at the two men...lopok more deeply at their mutual complexity, how boith are ahead of their time...how both hurtle us into a better future unapologetically and with adamantine certainty that what they do is right...and yes, they both do it boldly and at times a little brashly...that's the underlying comparison.

Most importantly...down deep, warts and all, they are both good men trying to do what's right and fighting...like mackenzie...for what they believe in with everything they have...even sometimes to a fault.

nevertheless, Tom is right on the Michelangelo thread, that drivel about setting stuff free from the marble was not only stolen from Pelican hill but pure weapons grade bolonium.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2007, 11:45:47 PM by Jay Flemma »

Tim Pitner

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Thanks Tim.  That makes one of us.  Was there anything that leads you to opine on whether the central premise...Doak as Hank Morgan...has merit?  Remember, I have not officially published the piece so I'm free to make changes before I submit to pub/editor.

Jay,

I'm not sure I understand your "that makes one of us" comment.  I was trying to say (a bit convolutedly) that I agree, the photos of Barnbougle look fantastic.  But, I'd hold off on calling it a classic before playing it, especially if I were a golf writer whose praise of the course would suggest some firsthand knowledge of it.

I haven't read the book.

Jay Flemma

I meant that makes one of us that has a problem calling a course all the way around the world a masterpiece.  My sources at all three publications HAVE played barnbougle and I have discussed it at length with them.  They feel I'm right in my analysis.  When my editors support me, I go forward with my opinion.  

Adam Clayman

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Jay, I liked the piece and feel Tom deserves the mention.
"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

RJ_Daley

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Jay, as promised... it is after vespers, compline and midnight office, but pre-matins... (private joke)

I didn't read ACYIKAC, but have met TD.  My brief but highly memorable time with him would very much be in accord with your observations.  

Many people follow this subject matter of GCA and related historical aspects, and it is good that a contemporary competent writer will commit to describe and record the character and personality as well as make comments as to the quality of the work of a prominent practitioner of the craft or art, not unlike Vasari described artists of his times.  Students of a particular craft or art deserve this treatment and perspective as a matter of historical importance.  I don't see you as a psychophant for TD and find your comments well balanced and accurate to the extent of my own observations.  
No actual golf rounds were ruined or delayed, nor golf rules broken, in the taking of any photographs that may be displayed by the above forum user.

Rich Goodale

Dick

Well done re: "psychophant"......

Rich

RJ_Daley

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Rihc, you should have been my editor for some of my old handwritten police reports.  We hand wrote the mundane stuff like family-domestic troubles, and dictated criminal or arrested person events, where I could get a little help from the transcriptionist.  

I know it when I see or hear it, I just cain't spell it! ...fpornographie and, die dee diddledum dee day, potatose? ;D
No actual golf rounds were ruined or delayed, nor golf rules broken, in the taking of any photographs that may be displayed by the above forum user.

Rich Goodale

Dick

I think that "psychophant" is a world-class tyop, and perfectly describes a certain class of celebrity stalkers.

Rhic

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