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Mike Hendren

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Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« on: April 19, 2007, 12:07:56 PM »
On the renaissance thread I included Wild Dunes as it marked the return of seaside golf course architecture circa 1980.  What U. S. seaside courses immediately preceded and followed Wild Dunes?  Had it not been a while?

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John_Cullum

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2007, 12:18:09 PM »
Kiawah is the clear choice that comes to mind
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Andy Ryall

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2007, 12:41:26 PM »
I was thinking of Kiva Dunes in Alabama, which I think broke ground in 1985.   Also, Palmetto Dunes in Hilton Head, though I think of the 3 courses, only 1 hole (#10 on RTJ) goes out to the shore, would also qualify.  

Brian_Ewen

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2007, 01:57:51 PM »
Sea Island ? .

T.J. Sturges

Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2007, 02:08:33 PM »
The original 3 courses at Dafuskie Island come to mind, but, I believe all 3 were built just after Wild Dunes.  Not sure what they call them now, but the Nicklaus course finished along the shore.

Also, to clarify, Wild Dunes preceded Kiawah.

The only other seaside course built in the US near that time I can think of would be Harbour Town.

TS

Bill_McBride

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2007, 02:49:43 PM »
I was thinking of Kiva Dunes in Alabama, which I think broke ground in 1985.   Also, Palmetto Dunes in Hilton Head, though I think of the 3 courses, only 1 hole (#10 on RTJ) goes out to the shore, would also qualify.  

Can't really call Kiva Dunes "seaside," it's quite a ways inland although on somewhat sandy soil.

Tom Yost

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2007, 03:44:50 PM »
On the west coast, Spanish Bay came along in the mid eighties I think.

Tom

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 03:56:31 PM »
Others:

1962ish - Monterey Peninsula CC (Shore)
1972 - Sandpiper (CA)
1973 - Samoset Resort (Maine)
1973 - Half Moon Bay (Old)
1977 - Bodega Harbor  (CA)

Harbour Town, mentioned above, was built in the late 60's.

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 04:06:17 PM »
How could I forget?  The back nine at Pacific Grove was built in 1960.


John_Cullum

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2007, 05:08:26 PM »
I do not consider Sea Island, Harbourtown, or anything on Daufuskie seaside, since they are not on the ocean.

Ameilia Island has a few holes on the ocean, Ocean Forest has 1.
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david h. carroll

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2007, 05:12:28 PM »
How about the Ocean Course in Sea Pines at HHI....I think it was a late 60's Cobb design with a par three on the back that plays straight out into the dunes perpindicular to the waves.

Wayne_Kozun

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2007, 05:21:39 PM »
Sea Island ? .
Was the Seaside course at Sea Island not originally built by Travis (first nine) and then Colt & Allison in the 20s?  That would disqualify it as modern, unless you mean the other courses at Sea Island.

Anthony_Nysse

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2007, 11:51:18 AM »
#15 on the Ocean course at Sea Pines backs to the ocean.
 Palmetto Dunes-Oceanfront course-has the 10th green and 11 tee with an Ocean Backdrop.
  #18 at Ocean Forest runs along the ocean

Tony Nysse
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Long Cove Club
HHI, SC
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Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Keith Williams

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 01:15:52 PM »
Bogey's question piqued my interest, so I did a little checking and came up with this very east-coast-centric (I haven't come close to having the time to check on the left coast) list of oceanfront courses (I defined oceanfront as lying directly against the eastern seaboard, not against a bay, sound or intracoastal waterway).

BTW, this list isn't comprehensive, nor can I support any of the dates other than by stating that I found them on the internet (and we know how much to trust in that)

1902 Samoset, Maine
1907 Prout's Neck, Maine
1919 Seminole
1919 Riomar Country Club, Fl (first nine)
1922 Maidstone
1926 Gulf Stream, Fl
1957 Red Reef, Fl
1961 Palm Beach Par 3
1962 Sea Pines Plantation - Ocean, SC
1964 Fripp Island - Ocean Point, SC
1964 Riomar Country Club (second nine)
1969 Palmetto Dunes - RTJ, SC
1972 Captiva Island Redfish Point, Fl
1973 Amelia Island - Ocean Links (first nine), Fl
**1980 Wild Dunes - Links
1981 Kiawah Island - Turtle Point
1986 Amelia Island - Long Point
1987 The Melrose Course - Daufuskie Island
1989 Hammock Dunes, Fl
1991 Kiawah Island - The Ocean Course
1995 Ocean Forest, Ga
1998 Amelia Island - Ocean Links (newest nine)
2000 Ocean Hammock, Fl

When placing the courses in chronological order, it is interesting to see the peaks in development running through the 1960's and the 1980's, both primarily in SC and Fl.

Keith.

rjsimper

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Re:Seaside Golf Courses - Modern Timeline
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2007, 01:54:30 PM »
The best golf course in southern California - Monarch Beach - 1983



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