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Jonathan Cummings

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Long Lost GCA-ers
« on: December 17, 2006, 07:58:58 AM »
Like Matt Ward....

You still out there Matt?
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paul cowley

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2006, 08:02:06 AM »
Jonathan...do you count people who are lost but still here? ;)
« Last Edit: December 17, 2006, 08:11:34 AM by paul cowley »
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2006, 12:00:56 PM »
Jonathan,

We had a similar thread a while ago.  I got a PM from Matt  not long ago, so I suspect he still reads but got his feelings hurt, as so many of us do on this site from time to time.  I further suspect it was the thrashing he got here for not showing up to some semi organized gca.com event, which he replied was on account of a traffic accident of a friend, but which wasn't accepted as a valid explanation by all.

Of course, its possible that he just got busy with his own real job or the holidays.  From time to time, we all have to let real life interfere with our gca life. :)
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Jim Nugent

Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2006, 01:30:19 PM »
I'm still hoping to hear Matt's comparison of Sand Hills, Dismal River and Ballyneal.  

For that matter, I'd like to see a thread or profile on DR, with lots of pictures to show what the course is like.  
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Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2006, 01:37:49 PM »
Jim,
I've urged Matt in the past to get a camera so we can visit what he sees thru his eyes.

Maybe he is still out shopping for one? ;)
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Mike Benham

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2006, 02:09:39 PM »
Quote from: Jonathan on December 17, 2006, 07:58:58 AM
Like Matt Ward....

You still out there Matt?


Jonathan -

Found this on page two, please don't recycle topics ;)

The Original "Where is Matt Ward?" thread
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John Foley

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2006, 02:12:15 PM »
What about Ran & John?

How aboutTodd Eckenroad?

Glad to see Gib back in the treehouse on occasion.
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John Kavanaugh

Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2006, 02:18:26 PM »
I miss the architectural musings of a man called Scott Burroughs..
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Jonathan Cummings

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2006, 03:14:27 PM »
Quote from: Mike Benham on December 17, 2006, 02:09:39 PM
Quote from: Jonathan on December 17, 2006, 07:58:58 AM
Like Matt Ward....

You still out there Matt?


Jonathan -

Found this on page two, please don't recycle topics ;)

The Original "Where is Matt Ward?" thread

Wasn't only talking about Matt...
« Last Edit: December 17, 2006, 03:15:07 PM by Jonathan »
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Dan Herrmann

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2006, 07:41:58 PM »
I was away for while due to a family emergency.  Things like this obviously get highest priority, but it was nice to come back here to lurk occasionally - it was a really nice distraction from real life.
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Craig Van Egmond

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2006, 10:33:22 PM »

I miss Mike Duffy.  Kelly Blake Moran too.  

Also the Shackelfords..

Gib should definitely post more.  

Where the heck is the mothman?

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Adam Clayman

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2006, 10:47:19 PM »
How about Y.T. Chang? (was that his name?)

I swear a sick part of me always thought it was Uncle Bob.
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RJ_Daley

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2006, 10:56:18 PM »
Somebody has got to go light a bomb under Slag Bandoon and getting him posting again!
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John_Conley

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2006, 11:03:16 PM »
Quote from: Adam Clayman on December 17, 2006, 10:47:19 PM
How about Y.T. Chang? (was that his name?)

I swear a sick part of me always thought it was Uncle Bob.

YTTseng

Bob who?
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Jim Franklin

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2006, 10:18:50 AM »
Dan Taylor where are you?
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Adam Clayman

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2006, 10:34:59 AM »
JC, You have been on this site for years and have no idea who uncle Bob is?

I'd swear it was Y.T. Cheng. Complete with picture of a young asian male, sitting at a computer.
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DTaylor18

Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2006, 11:03:33 AM »
Quote from: Jim Franklin on December 18, 2006, 10:18:50 AM
Dan Taylor where are you?

Jim, I've been out doing the heavy lifting.   ;D
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2006, 11:23:50 AM »
Where is Dan King?  

Several months ago www.golfobserver.com changed it's format and it seemed like Dan went underground at the same time.

Also did I miss Slag Bandoon's reports from Tazmania or did it never happen?
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George Pazin

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2006, 12:21:11 PM »
I miss reading the posts of my good friends down in Australia, Greg Ramsay and Paul Daley. I don't think either has left, I suspect they're just having too much fun playing golf to post much. :)
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Gib_Papazian

Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2006, 02:11:46 PM »
A question arose the other day as to how long this website has been in existence. Does anybody remember? I think the Great Bahto turned me onto it sometime in 1998, but I cannot be sure.

As I recall, there was a sort of technical reorganization that wiped out a bunch of threads a few years back, but my memory has turned to mush. I can see how my dad remembers all of his classmates at Lincoln High in 1946 but has no idea where he left his keys or wallet.

Long lost GCA-ers? How about Johnny Thunders? He had this frenetic, argumentative, inflammatory cadence and tone to his posts, which were always detonated at the most indelicate moments.

Kind of an assh*le, but an entertaining one. I guess he moved on. It is kind of like horse racing, if you can't hang, you have to drop down a few classes. I imagine he found his level in a AOL Chatroom for angst ridden teenagers.

I am uniquely qualified to discuss that subject as I'm blessed with one at home . . . .  :(

And where is young Andrew Bernstein? I suppose he's in his mid-20's by now. Didn't he go to UWV? The kid had a brain, so I am sure he has not come to ill fate - unless of course he married a crazy bitch and is hiding in a bar somewhere.

If I could magically bring one person back - and his contributions were few - it would be Michael M. Thomas ("The Five Foot Shelf" - In My Opinion).

He is the best writer not named Peter Dobreiner I've ever had the pleasure to be awed by. Michael Thomas is certainly the #1. American by miles.

His pieces "How to Save Your Club" and "My Friend Timmonds" for Golf Digest were wonderful. God, what a talent.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2006, 02:21:15 PM by Gib Papazian »
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Tom Huckaby

Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2006, 02:22:00 PM »
Gib:

This from the man himself (Ran), from the feature interview with him:


3. With the understanding that some future chronicler of Golfclubatlas.com’s history may cite this as the definitive answer, can you recount the idea behind the site’s founding as well as the events of its formative years?


The credit for this web site belongs to Chris Sutton and David Baxter, who quit their jobs to launch Sitesuite in Australia in 1998 (www.sitesuite.com.au). I knew them through work and they approached me about sticking anything into their web hosting software in order to help them show corporations how well it worked.

My brother John and I had written a couple dozen course profiles at that point, mailing them to friends at Christmas. We had always taken photographs of courses, so I said, 'What about a site on golf architecture? We have about sixty pages of text and dozens of photos – would that work?'

Though they must have thought what a sad life we had, Chris and Dave were enthusiastic and encouraged me to get them the information as soon as possible. They came up with the general layout and appearance of the site. My only guidance was to keep it simple as the subject matter was traditional in nature and I suggested brown for down the left side of the web page to mimic the color of wood lockers in an old clubhouse.

My brother John was familiar with a discussion group called Bravenet in the United States. He asked me to ask Chris and Dave if they could add a Discussion Group feature (‘sure’ was their response). From the start, John thought if we could keep the Discussion Group focused on golf course architecture and keep the discourse intelligent, our web site would eventually standout. And he was right.

We knew we wanted a Feature Interview section as a place for people to voice their unedited perspective to a (hopefully large) audience. Fortunately, I had corresponded a few times with Tom Doak by then. In the original edition of his Confidential Guide, he talked about earning brownie points for seeing a course near Ninety Mile Beach at the tip of the North Island of New Zealand. I had in fact played Kaitai and sent him a brief description of the links along with some photographs (which happened to be stunning).

Anyway, Tom was kind enough to do the first Feature Interview and re-reading the questions we asked him, you can see we certainly didn’t have any idea what we were doing and Tom was a great sport to do it.

Word got out that a new, non-commercial web site had done a Feature Interview with Tom and the page views slowly started to happen/grow. After the first year, we averaged about 12,000 page views per month, many between John and myself making anonymous posts in the Discussion Group. Now, we average over 600,000 page views per month. Somebody emailed me a link showing that we are now the ~63,000th most popular site on the world-wide web, which he implied was quite impressive.

Interesting he references that "Bravenet" discussion group reference therein... several regulars here now were regulars there.. as well as at some predecessors to that.  My involvement in all of this started in 1993 (I think).  

Memories.....

 ;)


« Last Edit: December 19, 2006, 02:23:43 PM by Tom Huckaby »
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Doug Sobieski

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2006, 02:31:41 PM »
Quote from: Gib Papazian on December 19, 2006, 02:11:46 PM

And where is young Andrew Bernstein? I suppose he's in his mid-20's by now. Didn't he go to UWV? The kid had a brain, so I am sure he has not come to ill fate - unless of course he married a crazy bitch and is hiding in a bar somewhere.


Gib:

I thought about Andrew periodically over the years after he disappeared (coinciding with his high school graduation!). He popped back in a year or so ago. You're right, he's 24 or 25 now, and I think he's in law school.

Sobe
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JohnV

Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2006, 02:38:52 PM »
In May of 1999, I was at the NCAA Division 2 golf championship with John M and he told me about GCA which was about to launch.  That championship came immediately after the first Bravenet gathering in Pinehurst where a number of us who still post here met for the first time.

I believe Andrew is still at UWV.  We (along with George Pazin) were going to try to get together in September for some golf, but couldn't work around the UWV football schedule.
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Dan Kelly

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2006, 02:54:19 PM »
Quote from: Doug Sobieski on December 19, 2006, 02:31:41 PM
... he's 24 or 25 now, and I think he's in law school.

Oh, no! Let's hope he doesn't find that Merion East thread!
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Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:Long Lost GCA-ers
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2006, 02:58:55 PM »
There have been a few female respondents - one was going to come to Painswick, I think - but none seems to have stayed long.  Is that a comment on the chauvinism of this site?
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