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Adam_F_Collins

Bunker Construction
« on: July 22, 2006, 06:36:01 PM »
How are bunkers constructed? Is there a good place to learn about it? How are the 'natural' ones made? (when they are made by man) How are sod bunkers made? What are some of the common mistakes made in bunker construction?

Mark_Fine

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2006, 07:13:13 PM »
Adam,
I think someone wrote a decent book about bunkers.  Maybe you should check it out.  Reading is good for you  ;)

Adam_F_Collins

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2006, 09:41:14 PM »
Well, just tell me the name of that book Mark, and I'll get right on it.

Jeff_Mingay

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2006, 10:12:01 PM »
Adam,

Come out to Sagebrush, in B.C., next week and I'll show you all about it ;)
jeffmingay.com

Tom_Doak

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2006, 11:06:58 PM »
We built the bunkers on my early courses with a bulldozer, because I had never learned how to run a trackhoe, so I couldn't teach Gil.

We started building some with an excavator on some of our consulting work in the late 1990's, and were very pleased with the results.  Nowadays, 99% of our bunkers are done entirely by digging with the excavator.  Pretty much everyone in my company is very skilled on the excavator except for me -- they're all so good at it that I've never learned.

Brian Phillips

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2006, 09:06:38 AM »
Tom,

It is interesting that you guys first used dozers, that is pretty much what most do in the US isn't?  Our guys even do the greens with an excavator.  Kenny has a 1.5 metre blade on his CAT 318 with a power tilt above the bucket.

I suppose the dozer in construction has been the cause of too soft shaping of bunkers, features etc over the last fifty years or so...

Brian
« Last Edit: July 23, 2006, 09:07:43 AM by Brian Phillips »
Bunkers, if they be good bunkers, and bunkers of strong character, refuse to be disregarded, and insist on asserting themselves; they do not mind being avoided, but they decline to be ignored - John Low Concerning Golf

Forrest Richardson

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2006, 02:38:28 PM »
Adam,

Bunkers, Pits and Other Hazards has a nice chapter on construction, and specifically bunkers. But...sorry to report that Mark and I have not finished the Canadian translation. ;D
— Forrest Richardson, Golf Course Architect/ASGCA
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Adam_F_Collins

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2006, 03:58:13 PM »
Adam,

Bunkers, Pits and Other Hazards has a nice chapter on construction, and specifically bunkers. But...sorry to report that Mark and I have not finished the Canadian translation. ;D

Jeezus.

Does that mean it'll come in Canadian dollars?

Adam_F_Collins

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2006, 04:01:21 PM »
Adam,

Come out to Sagebrush, in B.C., next week and I'll show you all about it ;)

Great, Jeff. I'll be checking my mailbox for that plane ticket to Vancouver...

 ;)

Actually, I'd just as soon check out your activities in Inverness... I hope you get on that soon, I've got people waiting to decide if they should buy property up there...

Adam_F_Collins

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2006, 04:02:28 PM »
We built the bunkers on my early courses with a bulldozer, because I had never learned how to run a trackhoe, so I couldn't teach Gil.

We started building some with an excavator on some of our consulting work in the late 1990's, and were very pleased with the results.  Nowadays, 99% of our bunkers are done entirely by digging with the excavator.  Pretty much everyone in my company is very skilled on the excavator except for me -- they're all so good at it that I've never learned.

Excavator - is that a 'backhoe?' Tom?

Joe Hancock

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2006, 04:11:30 PM »
A backhoe would be the attachment on the opposite end of the tractor that the front end loader is on. These are usually rubber tire vehicles.

An excavator is similar to the backhoe, but it is the only utilization of that particular machine. There are generally track vehicles, and much larger, farther reaching tools than its little brother, the backhoe. The exception is the mini excavators, which are also useful for bunker construction, albeit on a smaller scale.

Joe

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Adam_F_Collins

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2006, 05:39:07 PM »
Thanks Joe.

I'm serious here. I'd like to know how bunkers are constructed. What's the process for each type?

Forrest Richardson

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2006, 06:50:04 PM »
Adam — The process varies. And each golf course architect has their own ideas. Soil type affects construction. For example, at a pure sand site it is nearly impossible to "shape" a bunker...it just happens, or you might dig it out after the surrounding grass is established.

But typically, on "normal" compactable soils, a small excavator is used (commonly called a mini-excavator). Many will use a smaller bulldozer...D-5 is even too large most times, but I have seen creative shapers use dozers to great success. (I have also seen bunkers built with backhoes and loaders, but this is not what we use.)

The bunker is dug out of a rough shaped area to about 6-8 inches below the desired finish grade. Once it is approved the bunker will be cleaned up to get the edges and depth to the liking of the architect. The area is finished so we can see the final grades...but the bunker floor is still below finished grade. Some will have the bunker edges 100% done at this stage...it depends on the desired edge. If the look is ragged and rough then it probably doesn't get much attention until planting, but if smooth and even, then it may get pre-finished now and then cleaned up later on.

A key step is to set the subgrade (floor) of the bunker. Any excess material needs to be removed and used nearby or hauled away. A decent job in rough shaping will mean less work at this stage...as things are finished.

At this stage we put drainage in — often a sump and drain lines to take water away from the low point, or points. Irrigation follows. At this time the area looks a mess...as if we trashed all the work. But, in reality, trenches have been dug and it all gets put back. Just looks bad.

Then the bunker is finished, usually by hand with whatever edging is called for. The floor is compacted (again) and any lining or stabilization goes in. When the surrounding area is cleaned up (final finishing) and ready for grass it is often the case that sand may be piled in the bunker before planting. Not always. Some work calles for sand to be hauled well after grass is rooted and established.

Once sand is in place it is compacted and any excess removed.

Sod is typically laid around bunkers to stabilize the soils and create a clean edge that seed does not always permit. Of course, if the look is one of ragged edging and a more natural intrusion of grasses on the perimeter, then taller fescuse and seed can be planted (from plugs) or from seed. I think 90% of bunkers get sodded around the edges, most by several feet — 10-ft. or more.

And then there is always the old school method of digging them out later. Mark Fine recently found that several of the classic era architects practiced this method...waiting until the course had been played before deciding their locations.

I think you will get several responses here from designers who do things diferently...it is really a varied process depending on many factors.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2006, 06:54:25 PM by Forrest Richardson »
— Forrest Richardson, Golf Course Architect/ASGCA
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Adam_F_Collins

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2006, 09:39:56 AM »
Thank you, Forrest.

How deep is the sand usually?

Forrest Richardson

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2006, 09:58:53 AM »
4-6 inches is typical for placed sand (after compaction). But, as noted, a natural sand site has bunkers with sand depths of, well, hundreds of feet!
— Forrest Richardson, Golf Course Architect/ASGCA
    www.golfgroupltd.com
    www.golframes.com

Jeff_Mingay

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2006, 10:09:40 AM »
I used a John Deere 310 backhoe at Blackhawk. But a trackhoe, like the John Deere 120 I'm currently using at Sagebrush, is MUCH MORE versatile.

Sometimes we'll shape a landform with a bulldozer first, then excavate the bunker. Most important is the finish work though, with the rakes and shovels.  
jeffmingay.com

Adam_F_Collins

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2006, 10:47:43 AM »
So to get the really natural-looking stuff, do you sod it in "too far" and then cut it back later - once it's rooted in?

Jeff_Mingay

Re:Bunker Construction
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2006, 10:56:41 AM »
Adam,

If you're trying to achieve the really natural-looking stuff, I think it's best to seed. And, of course, it's necessary to finish every bunker by hand following the grow-in.

Another neat trick is to stack sod on the top edge of a bunker at varying thickness, then hydroseed. This method will effectively create a thick, irregular, gnarly lip. Stealing the sod from a natural field nearby is best, too!
« Last Edit: July 24, 2006, 10:58:56 AM by Jeff_Mingay »
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