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rjsimper

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10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« on: June 08, 2006, 12:42:56 AM »
In our post KPV discussions, I noted that while I would probably not rate Stone Eagle in the 10 best courses I've ever played, I likely WOULD choose it as one of 10 to play for the rest of my life, as I think it's unique and I like variety (on the other hand, I prefer Riviera and LACC North to Stone Eagle for day-to-day play, but I would not put both on my list simply because of their similarities).

I'm working on my list in my head, but I'd be curious as to how some of you would construct your list, and why.  Stone Eagle's on mine for the exhileration, excitement, scenery, challenge, and the fact that I think on any given day, if I dialed it in I could probably go very low.


(and for the sake of variety, let's please limit to courses you've played, or walked/spent time at)
« Last Edit: June 08, 2006, 12:44:30 AM by Ryan Simper »

Gene Greco

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2006, 04:53:31 AM »
Pacific Grove Muni
Monterey Peninsula (Dunes)
Pebble Beach Golf Links
Cypress Point
Garden City Golf Club
Winged Foot West (member's tees)
Kapalua Plantation
Royal Dornoch
The Old Course
NGLA
Sand Hills
"...I don't believe it is impossible to build a modern course as good as Pine Valley.  To me, Sand Hills is just as good as Pine Valley..."    TOM DOAK  November 6th, 2010

Kyle Harris

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2006, 05:23:47 AM »
Merion (East)
Jeffersonville
Reading Country Club
Bethpage Black
Bethpage Red
Huntingdon Valley
Rolling Green
Makefield Highlands
The Club at Morgan Hill
Schuylkill Country Club

Tom Roewer

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2006, 06:45:27 AM »
Mountain Lake
Chicago Golf Club
Merion
North Berwick
Crail
Bethpage Black
Carmargo
The Golf Club
The Greenbrier - Old White
Granville Golf Course

Andy Troeger

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2006, 07:25:23 AM »
In our post KPV discussions, I noted that while I would probably not rate Stone Eagle in the 10 best courses I've ever played, I likely WOULD choose it as one of 10 to play for the rest of my life, as I think it's unique and I like variety (on the other hand, I prefer Riviera and LACC North to Stone Eagle for day-to-day play, but I would not put both on my list simply because of their similarities).

I'm working on my list in my head, but I'd be curious as to how some of you would construct your list, and why.  Stone Eagle's on mine for the exhileration, excitement, scenery, challenge, and the fact that I think on any given day, if I dialed it in I could probably go very low.


(and for the sake of variety, let's please limit to courses you've played, or walked/spent time at)


I'd construct a list that including varying styles of course, different architects, and different degrees of difficulty. If I was only going to play 10 courses forever, I'd want some strategy, but also some beautiful spots, and a couple of courses where I'd at least have a chance to score :)

There's a pretty good Pete Dye flavor, but that's both because I think he's very good and because I've played a fair few of his courses. I think the three included are all pretty different sites as well.

Blackwolf Run--River
Tullymore
Harbour Town
Whistling Straits
Point O'Woods
Sycamore Hills
Paa-Ko Ridge
South Bend CC
Briarwood/Renegade Mountain/Cumberland Gardens (or whatever else they might call it these days--its in the mountains of Tennessee--most beautiful course I've ever seen)
Blackthorn (So. Bend, IN)

wsmorrison

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2006, 08:07:34 AM »
Of the ones I have played:

Shinnecock Hills
Merion East and West (I'm going to cheat and count this as one)
Pine Valley
Indian Creek
Sand Hills
Kittansett
Old Course, St. Andrews
Royal Dornoch
Royal St. George's
Swinley Forest

Peter Pratt

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2006, 08:09:51 AM »
Ballybunion
Sand Hills
Crystal Downs
High Pointe
Kingsley
Pasatiempo
Lahinch
Indianwood (Old)
Royal County Down
The Gailes

It is interesting that I needed to go down well into the 20s of my favorite courses to get the 10 I'd like to play regularly. I passed on the Ocean Course, which I love but wouldn;t want to play every day.

Kevin Pallier

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2006, 08:26:17 AM »
In no particular order:

- St. Andrews (Old).....I could just have one  :)
- Royal County Down....for it's ultimate test
- Royal Dornoch ......my short game would be damn good
- North Berwick (West)....golf is so much fun
- Muirfield....love the layout
- Royal Melbourne (Composite)....best combined 18holes in Oz
- Kingston Heath.....demanding test
- New South Wales....2 courses in 1 depends on which way the wind is blowing
- Barnbougle Dunes...Australia finally has a world class links course !!
- Sunningdale (Old).....love the variety of holes and the heather
- Pebble Beach....for 2 contrasting P3's #3 and #17 and the walk along the ocean......

PS: I can't count

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Andrew Mitchell

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2006, 08:49:27 AM »
On the basis of the courses I've played so far (& in no particular order):
TOC
Royal Dornoch
North Berwick
Elie
Ballybunion
Alwoodley
Moortown
Ganton
Notts (Hollinwell)
Ilkley
2014 to date: not actually played anywhere yet!
Still to come: Hollins Hall; Ripon City; Shipley; Perranporth; St Enodoc

Chris_Clouser

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2006, 09:08:28 AM »
Best 3 I've ever played that provide a great variety

Crystal Downs
Prairie Dunes
Southern Hills

Others I would love to play any day of the week

Rolling Green - just fun course, only wish I had played better
Old Town - wicked fun course as well
Kingsley Club
Black Mesa - just putting this on there from what I've read and heard.  My top course I want to play in the next two years

Local flavor

Purgatory - Just want a hard track to measure my skill every so often
Sahm GC in Indy - Shot my lowest score ever there yesterday
Yule GC in my home town - Grew up playing there and will always have a soft spot in my game for it, even if it isn't much to write home about.

Tom Huckaby

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2006, 10:41:49 AM »
I truly don't need 10.

Assuming finances/access are no issue...

Sand Hills (best course on the planet)
Cypress Point (damn close, homeboy)
NGLA (more fun cannot be had playing the game)
Castlerock GC (gotta have one in Ireland, so I'll take my cousin's club)
Royal Dornoch (gotta have one in Scotland, so I'll take this and be happy)
LACC-North (gotta have one near the parents, this works)

I suppose I need one in a tropical clime - I do like that as a change... so add Kapalua-Plantation.

That's enough.

TH



Bob_Huntley

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2006, 10:56:07 AM »
In our post KPV discussions, I noted that while I would probably not rate Stone Eagle in the 10 best courses I've ever played, I likely WOULD choose it as one of 10 to play for the rest of my life, as I think it's unique and I like variety (on the other hand, I prefer Riviera and LACC North to Stone Eagle for day-to-day play, but I would not put both on my list simply because of their similarities).

I'm working on my list in my head, but I'd be curious as to how some of you would construct your list, and why.  Stone Eagle's on mine for the exhileration, excitement, scenery, challenge, and the fact that I think on any given day, if I dialed it in I could probably go very low.


(and for the sake of variety, let's please limit to courses you've played, or walked/spent time at)


Every day does mean every day, or is that just in season? If so I have some whips and chains together with a manual of their use, by a guy called de Sade.

Bob

ed_getka

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2006, 10:56:21 AM »
Sand Hills (my favorite US)
Prairie Dunes (most balanced test)
Kingsley Club (the one that gives me the biggest smile)
Fishers Island (great golf in an incomparable setting)
North Berwick (the soul of golf)
Dornoch (my favorite UK course, and most balanced test over there)
Merion (great test of golf)
NGLA (soul of golf US, fun on steroids)
Rustic Canyon ("home" course - 350 miles away)
Pacific Dunes (more great golf in an incomparable setting at the Bandon complex)
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Tom Huckaby

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2006, 11:04:36 AM »
Audible yuks at Mr. Huntley's comment!

And so far I like Ed's list.  In fact I'm trading mine for his.

Ed, will this list change after 2007 jaunts?  I'd bet it will... and that's a good thing.

 ;D

rjsimper

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2006, 12:16:03 PM »

Every day does mean every day, or is that just in season? If so I have some whips and chains together with a manual of their use, by a guy called de Sade.

Bob

Maybe I shall upon further review qualify my statement by, in July and August, restricting my play at Stone Eagle in favor of my other 9 in more reasonable climes.  But, believe it or not, I enjoy playing in the heat every now and again.


My list of those I have played/walked extensively-

-Newport
Love the feel of this great old New England summertime layout

-Taconic
One of the fairest courses I know, and greens to die for - the foliage from the 15th tee in October is unbeatable

-Rustic Canyon
Because I just love the place and to me, it knocks Pinehurst 2 off the pedestal for "fun around the greens"

-Stone Eagle
Spectacular, scorable, challenging, and the desert/golf coure contrast is always beautiful to me.  I wonder if the winds ever shift, or if the mountain directs them in the same direction most of the time

-Riviera (edging LACC north by a hair)
The 10th wins this westside battle for me, but I love both dearly

-Pacific Dunes
Because I'd need a place to spend my afternoons and sunsets, and I've not yet found a better golf sunset than off of the 11th at PD

-Pine Needles
Though I haven't seen it post-restoration, I need a sandhills representative and Pine Needles is the one that I found challenging and straight-forward enough (read: no goofy-greens) to want to keep around for a while.  Tough set of 4-pars that will test the Driver and mid-irons.

Okay, I am going to leave the last three spots open - I am sure I'd be happy with the variety in this set of 7, but I want to keep my options open as I'm aiming to get across the pond in the next couple of years and I'm sure I'll be around more stateside to play deserving layouts.

But, I too find it interesting that I have to dip into my top 15 or so, I'd say, to complete this list.

Tom Huckaby

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2006, 12:24:54 PM »
Ryan:

This is so highly personal, of course it's stupid to question anyone else's list... but I have to ask... have you ever been to the UK or Ireland?  

TH

rjsimper

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2006, 12:27:48 PM »
Ryan:

This is so highly personal, of course it's stupid to question anyone else's list... but I have to ask... have you ever been to the UK or Ireland?  

TH

Nope, and that's why my conclusion on my list includes the caveat that my best guess is that I will find courses when I get my butt over there (likely next summer) to include in my list.  Given what I like about the game and about courses, I am tremendously looking forward to the journey.

Tom Huckaby

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2006, 12:30:20 PM »
Ryan:

VERY cool.  I would have been quite confused had you already been there and not included at least a couple samples.

 ;D

Ed Tilley

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2006, 12:41:34 PM »
Unlike the Huckster, if somebody offers me more choice I will take it.  Unfortunately my list falls short on American courses because I haven't played enough of the good uns.  My list also incorporates where the course is located and the setting.  Man cannot live on golf alone.  In alphabetical order:

Lahinch
North Berwick
Royal Dornoch
Royal St. Georges
St. Enodoc
Swinley Forest
The Addington
The Island
TOC
University of Michigan


Ciao

Sean



Sean,

I can't believe you haven't included Enniscrone - I thought you were a fellow disciple. Like you, I think you need a wide geographical spread. It's no good saying Sunningdale, Swinley, Berkshire, Walton Heath, St Georges Hill etc.. I also think you need some easy courses in there rather than just championship courses.

In alphabetical order:

Dooks
Enniscrone
Hardelot (Pins)
Machrihanish
Pebble Beach
Royal County Down
Royal Dornoch
St. Enodoc
Seignosse
Sunningdale (Old)

Ed


ed_getka

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2006, 12:53:40 PM »
Tom,
   I certainly hope to see a change or two, I would hate to travel that far and not be able to displace something on my list. :)
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Michael Wharton-Palmer

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2006, 12:59:51 PM »
I feel it only fair to count courses that I have played...so...
Merion...my first trip there is still the most memorable round of golf I have every had

Pine Valley...quite simply golf perfection{despite the "overgrowth" of trees Patrick}

Cypress Point...a true architectural masterpiece from the master himself.


Pebble Beach...holes 4-10  and 18 are just too good to not include the entire course.

Pacific Dunes...simply blew me away that a links course this good existed outside of my homeland.

Kingsley Club...unlike any other so much awesome fun to play

San Fransisco Golf Club......Classical in every sense of the word..almost feels like it is the regal member of this list, such is the course's classic nature.

Western Gailes..the best example I have played of untouched pure vintage links golf..perhaps the way the game was 150 yeras ago.

Royal Birkdale...my personal favourite of the Open rota of courses.Ultimately fair and never tricked up.

Woodhall Spa...the finest inland course in the United Kingdom, anf again a supremely fair and stern teast of golf.


Of those I have not played that I would imagine joining this list are...
Royal Melbourne
Sand Hills
Garden City
NGLA
Banbougle


Gib_Papazian

Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2006, 01:02:39 PM »
Bearing in mind that it is extremely unlikely my golf game will resemble Uncle Bob's as I get older, I shall avoid favorites like  County Down, PV or Shinnecock as they will probably far beyond my powers in my dotage.

North Berwick
Prestwick
NGLA
Cruden Bay
Lahinch
Garden City (with a restored 12th)
Stevinson Ranch
Del Rio CC (Brawley, Calif.)
Shoreacres
Mid Ocean
Rustic Canyon
Barona Creek
Fisher's Island
And yes, I know that is not 10. . . . . I'm going to add in  George  Bahto's course out on Long Island.

Mike Benham

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2006, 01:10:00 PM »
Del Rio CC (Brawley, Calif.)

What special affection do you have for it to be in your top 10 ?
« Last Edit: June 08, 2006, 03:14:03 PM by Mike Benham »
"... and I liked the guy ..."

PThomas

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2006, 01:13:22 PM »
I have a feeling I'll probably forget to include one or two favorties, and it's agonizing to leave some of my other favorites off, but of those I've played, in no particular order

Pac Dunes
Sand Hills
Prairie Dunes
CPC
Kingsley
Pebble
C Downs
Black Mesa
Kinloch
Merion
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Mark Arata

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Re:10 Courses to play for the rest of your life
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2006, 01:49:32 PM »
Pacific Dunes (my favorite course)
Cypress Point (with Mr Huntley, for the stories alone!, oh, and the golf isnt bad either ;D)
Prairie Dunes (the best all around course I have played)
Fishers Island
Pasatiempo
Plainfield
Atlantic City
Rustic Canyon
Lawsonia
Stone Eagle (I wouldnt mind replaying this past weekend forever, just in cooler weather)

Honorable mention to Blackwolf Run and Bandon Trails, and the Palms (I really enjoyed that course)


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