Is this one of both kinds of music played at Bob's _ Bunker
from The Blues Brothers?   The locals here call it that.

One Hall of Fame in this town, another an hour away.

Scott,

I spoke with the president of the club just this morning.  They are finishing up a large scale renovation of the clubhouse after just completing a restoration of the course.  They certainly have their priorities in order!  Anyway, they are building a room in homage to the architect (won't be hard to guess who that is) with facsimile hole drawings and photographs including a just commissioned painting of the architect.  Look for a copy of that painting in our book.  A full-size copy of the routing map is in a prominent place elsewhere in the club.

This is one of the courses new to me last year that was a great revelation.  There is only about 45 feet of elevation change on the entire course but it is used very well.  For intstance the bunkers on a diagonal near the top right of the photograph (northeast?) are set into a hillside.  The shot from the valley up to the green is really cool.  The dogleg left at the top left of the photo is a favorite hole, the 17th with an interesting set of angles created by both the left and right fairway lines in relation to the tee.  The hole slopes down severely to a valley and then up to the green with the four bunkers set into the hillside.  Temptation can get the better of you.  The dogleg right par 5 in the middle of the picture has an interrupted fairway at a ridge that drops down to the second fairway.

It looks like there's some construction going on.  The short par 4 on the bottom right has a very deep bunker fronting the green (better to be left in that fairway) that looks like it is being reconstructed as is the bunker field along the right short of that.

I love this golf course.  Everyone I've met from that club indicates that there's a terrific group of members that take great pride in their heritage.  Anbody travelling through Tom Mac's home state ought to check it out.  There's another Flynn right next door; a very private men's club with about 6,000 rounds per year.

That's not a strategic tree on 18, is it?  Don't tell Bill V

Scott, do you know when the photo was taken?  I'm thinking a few years ago, before the completion of the recent restoration?

This is a great club and a great golf course.  Scott, how old is the aerial?  

 Wayne,
    Does the hole along the top of the picture slope right to left? If so, they should get rid of those trees on the right.

   On many holes the trees seem fine , but on a few they seem to have added a secondary line which is unnecesary.

Thanks Scott.  It don't think it is too current.

Mike,
Ralph (the grounds chaiman) asked me to provide a consulting report to the club on my observations/recommendations which I did.  I'm not sure which hole you are refering too but he and his committee have since taken down/relocated a number of trees, etc.  

I am anxious to get back out there to see the work.
mark

Mark,

I agree, this photo is probably a few years before the recent renovation.  The work by IMG (there's a lot of IMG members at the club) is of a high order.  Part of the work was tree removal, a few hundred I believe.  

 Wayne,

   I'm just having fun; leave me alone! I think courses have a tendency to put trees on these slopes when the ground will do. The bunker complex on the right is more interesting for a shot from the right  rough.

Please, Mike.  Let me know when you're just having fun and then I won't go to my files and get the information you request.

There's trees all over the golf course and in the surrounding areas.  How can you say they or anyone else has "a tendency to put trees on slopes when the ground will do."  Shouldn't you determine if the trees are native or not?

Did you go to the Matt Ward school of Golf Architecture Analysis?  

Steve,

You're getting warmer...in fact on the sun hot  

It's either country or pepper territory.

Wayne


Did Flynn do both courses at the same time for a discounted fee?

Why did both clubs hire the same architect? Wasn't Ross available?


Steve

Steve,

If Flynn would've done things like that for a discount, how would he have gotten so relatively rich for an architect?  Flynn designed The Pepper Pike Club in 1924 and The Country Club in Pepper Pike in 1930.  He also did Elyria CC on the other side of Cleveland in 1925.  I'm sure the success at PPC and ECC contributed his getting the work at TCC, especially due to all the members from PPC that started TCC.

Why Flynn and not Ross?  Why, elementary my dear Steve.  They wanted the best  

Doug,

If you saw an aerial from today, it would look even more like Flynn!  Tom Paul and I have been noticing that Flynn had some pretty standard fairway widths when topography and other natural features and strategic sense allowed; that was 50-yards wide.  One course allegedly asked him to move the green so the standard widths could be used rather than the natural narrowing that existed in the original location.  

The subsequent narrowing of fairways and the concomittant addition of tree lines ocurred later when single line irrigation was installed with the throws being about 17-yards to each side.  Too bad it became a near-universal result.  At least the tide is slowly reversing.

Yes, Doug, the 9th is a par 3, originally 155-yards long with the creek in front of the tee.  Its longer now, the back tee is 188.

 Eric,

   It reminds me of #1 at Philly Country--which itself used to be late in the round.  Although, according to Wayne, this one is quite downhill.

I thought C&A did the one next door, going from the old aerial 154.  

Actually, I think part of that is my fault, having a wrong
attribution of #154 in the #344 (neighbor club) thread,
despite having the correct attribution in the original #154 thread.  

The well-known C&A course near Cleveland that was a
previous AOTD is Kirtland.

#17 above reminds me of #4 at Huntingdon Valley.  
Hmmm....same architect again.