I was just reading a story on Frank Quattrone, the famed internet banker, who was recently convicted in NYC.  It looks like close to 20 months for Mr Q.  It was also mentioned that he is spending quite a lot of time on the links of his various private clubs, Tehama, MPCC, Los Altos to name a few (I have heard he is a member at Cypress too).  This leads me to a quick question.......does a club have the right to boot a member who is convicted of a crime?  Does a private club of the stature of MPCC/Cypress really want this type of bad publicity, having a member who lied and cheated and was convicted?  

I was just reading a story on Frank Quattrone, the famed internet banker, who was recently convicted in NYC.  It looks like close to 20 months for Mr Q.  It was also mentioned that he is spending quite a lot of time on the links of his various private clubs, Tehama, MPCC, Los Altos to name a few (I have heard he is a member at Cypress too).  This leads me to a quick question.......does a club have the right to boot a member who is convicted of a crime?  Does a private club of the stature of MPCC/Cypress really want this type of bad publicity, having a member who lied and cheated and was convicted?  

Not sure of the legal ramifications of tossing a member out of the club (Doug Wright, Dave Schmidt where are you) but it would probably be up to the individual club.  
Doubt if it is anyone else's business.  Felons can still play golf can't they or are felons just banned from golf as part of their sentence
Best
Dave

Who cares if they play golf?

As long as they pay their dues and assesments.

Personally, I'm scared that a life where the best things in life don't get a rise out of me anymore might not be all it's cracked up to be.  

Now I understand why you would pass up that flight with Salma and crew.

Brian:

Let me ask you a serious question:  would you really WANT to be a member at CPC?  Would you really WANT to "get used to" that place?  Can you imagine a life so spoiled when you don't go ga-ga just entering the parking lot, let alone making the walk to 15?

Wow, it's something I never thought of because I knew it would never be something I'd have to lose sleep over.  It all depends on your perspective, but it would be a nice problem to have.  

Here's a couple things that crossed my mind:

One time at MPCC (I think it was on #10 on Dunes), I asked Bob Huntley how long it took him before you stopped getting partially distracted by the scenery while playing.  He told me that he considered himself blessed to be able to wake up each day and have the opportunity to get distracted, and sometimes the distraction was a good cure for a mediocre round.  I assume that same logic could apply to CPC.

My current home course is one of my favorite places in the world, especially at certain times of day (dawn & dusk).  Sure, there are plenty of days when I'm grinding it out for a $2 Nassau and it just becomes another course with 18 holes....my bad for not realizing what's around me.  But it's those days when I have a chance to play 5 holes before nightfall or 8am on Sunday with my brother and we're the only footprints in the dew that I realize I can somewhat appreciate the same "distractions" that Mr.Huntley gets in Monterey.

I'd love to have that problem....  

If somebody asked me if I wanted a convicted felon in my club I'd tell them "Hell yes" if he was great guy. I might even want him more than when he was just like any other old law-abiding good guy!!

We had an interesting situation at our club not long ago with a prospective member, Larry Brown, until he left the 76ers and moved on. The club seemed actually concerned for some odd reason that he was an active professional B-ball coach but I secretly suspect some were concerned he might bring Allan Iverson over to the club with him, like that wouldn't be acceptable.

Somebody on the admissions committee got around to asking me what I thought about this somewhat controversial nomination of Larry Brown and would I want him to be a member?  I told that admissions guy that I didn't know that much about Larry but he looked OK to me with his little wire-rimmed glasses and such and that he'd probably fit right in around here but I, for one, would never agree to support his admission as a member unless he absolutely promised to bring Allen Iverson over to the club with him almost everytime he came.

I said, maybe I could get used to hanging with Larry and maybe I'd even consider playing golf with him if he asked me nicely but that I really wanted to hang with AI and have an opportunity to maybe touch his hair at some point and maybe even play a bunch of golf with him and perhaps even do a little bob and weave with him out on the 4th green or something.

But that admissions guy didn't listen to me---they never really do listen to my great ideas over there.

would you really WANT to be a member at CPC?  Would you really WANT to "get used to" that place?  

I hear you saying you would get used to it...do you think we would?  
Maybe that's why some never tire of their own home course?  They each have so much to offer, why not enjoy it every time.
Cheers

P.S.  As it pertains to felons... what Tom Paul says!

Brian:

Let me ask you a serious question:  would you really WANT to be a member at CPC?  Would you really WANT to "get used to" that place?  Can you imagine a life so spoiled when you don't go ga-ga just entering the parking lot, let alone making the walk to 15?

Personally, I'm scared that a life where the best things in life don't get a rise out of me anymore might not be all it's cracked up to be.  

On a web site that frequently jumps to insanity, this may be the most insane comment ever.  If CPC ever approaches you with membership and you turn them down, please tell them about your good buddy in Michigan that would gladly take your place!

What about when Iverson dragged his wife outside his house and the whole police dept was there???  Was that considered unruly behavior?

As far as the felon topic, what about a convicted felon joining a new club.  It seems the overriding opinion here is that if he is a good guy and not a snitch, no problem.  I think in the real world, it would be a HUGE problem.  Judges are members at lots of clubs, they cannot be mingling with convicts just for appearance sake, no matter how good the guy.

I think NOKD is probably equally applicable to a member's (or prospective member's) rap sheet. We'll call it, NOCD.

 

.......does a club have the right to boot a member who is convicted of a crime?  

brother P Drake

yes they can control their memebership roster . . . . but some clubs would have few members remaining . . . st andrews in boca FLA comes to my mind . . . . and one more notorious offender was a well recognized clergy prior to conviction ! also leewood country club in eastchester NY had convicted mobsters as members since i can remember and it always made me a little nervous opening the trunks of their big lincolns and cadillacs to get their golf bags . . .but they were great tippers !

I recently saw a convicted felon and the snitch who testified against him playing at Deepdale, but not together.

I recently saw a convicted felon and the snitch who testified against him playing at Deepdale, but not together.

You forgot to add that the snitch is also a felon, and a helluva golfer...much better than the snitchee.  They are both members, too, which would illustrate that perhaps a rap sheet does not make one persona non grata...certainly not at Deepdale. It might even get you a better spot on the buffet line.