This should be good.

Brian,

Muirfield is nothing like the Old Tom Morris course and shouldn't really be used in your list.  It is now really classed as a Colt and Simpson course.

Many of the new holes that were routed by Colt were on new land that Morris did not have access to when he routed the course.

I hope you are joking about Royal Dornoch as well...

Brian.

Heres my list..

Machrihanish
Leven Links
Lundin Links
Nairn
Wallasey

Brian

I think there still is a lot of OTM at Dornoch, including the greens at 3, 4, 5, 14, 15, 16 and 18.  Even if that is all (which I thnk not), it ain't a bad legacy!

Paul,

In 1927 Mackenzie was asked to inspect the course and he transformed it into it's basic routing.  He moved all the holes across the road to the large sandhills near the sea and left only one original Morris hole, todays 6th - The Dell.  Was then the 4th.

Cheers
J

...and one of my VERY favourite OTM holes - and not a bunker in sight!



The green sits atop a 15ft high plateau...luvverly!

FBD.

Mr G,
It would be a pleasure and a great honour to tote your sticks for you! Count me in! Looping for you would be somewhat akin to carrying the clubs of the Dalai Lama himself (big hitter, the lama...)

The hole plan does no justice to the real thing here. If you remember, the drive can be thrashed up the right side, but gives no real advantage. The best play is big left, toying with the stream. The green is sooooo elevated, however, that it requires a PERFECT approach, and nothing less, no matter where you're coming in from.....zipahdeedoodah!

For our other brethren, this is the Alyth Golf Club, a course in a tiny town in deepest Tayside(or is it Angus?). Check their website - some nice pics and chat. Worth tearing yourselves away from the 'Links' the next time you're over here...

FBD.

Rich, Martin,
Given the life expectancy being low up there, what with the smoking, razor gangs and all, could 43 get in??

I think I might be over there

Cheers

L

Martin

I've only played there once (and had to use Google to identify it from your post), but who cannot love a 350 yarder that is the #1 handicap hole?!

I'll be playing there (hopefully) in the Scottish Seniors in August.  Wanna caddy?

Rich(ard)

http://domain373868.sites.fasthosts.com/course/scorecards.htm

Lloyd

I was going off the scorecard (see link above) which has the 5th as the 11 HCP for the ladies tees (239 yards), but #1 for the men's.  I plan to play from the men's tees when I am next there!

Unfortunately, the age requirement for the Scottish Seniors is still 55, which means that you have a ways to go.  However, if the rest of the country goes the way of Shettleston (a recent survey put their average age of male morbidity at 56!), the field may thin out in the years to come......

Do let me know when you're going to be over, however and maybe you, me, Martin and A. N. Other can get a game.

Martin

Is there no value at all at bombing it over the stream to the right (if you feel like making 240-250 yard carries on the day)?  Also, thanks for the offer to loop.  My caddies usually experience total unsconsciousness, often during the round, so I've got that going for me.......

Brian

I can't really remember the course that much as it was 15 years or so ago and I was playing with a friend whose primary goal during a round of golf is to get back into the bar as quckily as possible.  Hope to learn more later this year.

Brian

You are years behind me, and ahead of me at the same time!  The earliest plan I know of is the one in the clubhouse which is 1906 or so.  I'd love to see the 1892 plan, and then we can talk.  Can you bring a copy to Painswick?

My understanding is the OTM laid out 9 "proper holes" and then Sutherland expanded them to 18.  Perhaps I was premature in assigning all those hole to OTM.

See you in May.

Rich(ard)

Rich,

All the info I have looked at is from the book I bought in the Pro shop 'A History of The Royal Dornoch Golf Club 1877-1999'

How accurate it is I have no idea but here are a few things that I scanned;







Cheers,

Brian