We need to list at least 10 for Pete and Alice.

Let's start with

The Golf Club
PGA West Stadium
TPC Sawgrass
Long Cove
Harbour Town


always there

THe sleeepers?

Gee, maybe I'll throw in the Ocean Course as a sleeper...

I've seen very few of Dye's courses that were actually his and not Perry's but here are the top 2.

PGA Stadium
Wolf Course at Pauite

I guess SPDB is too important to change his name?

I'd like to throw in Old Marsh as one of Dye's best.  It isn't in his top 5, but I think he did a great job!

Not In Any Particular Order:

The Golf Club
The Ocean Course
TPC Sawgrass
Casa de Campo
Harbour Town
Long Cove
Blackwolf Run - River Course
Whistling Straits - Straits Course
Pete Dye GC
Crooked Stick

That I have played, in order:

Pete Dye GC
The Golf Club
Long Cove
Harbour Town
Kiawah-Ocean
Honors
TPC-Sawgrass
Riverdale Dunes
Austin CC

That's only 9.  I have played several others, but did not lkie them very much.

Good Point Tom.....I can't vote for Honors over The Straits based on the five separate times I've played each....looks like we are in agreement on the others though!!!

Hey Steve!!!!!!!!

I can’t pass this up:

(Based on my preference of which golf course I would play tomorrow if given the opportunity –of course I am working)

1. Teeth of the Dog
2. Kiawah Island (Ocean)
3. Whistling Straits
4. Colleton River
5. TPC at Sawgrass
6. The Golf Club
7. Bulle Rock
8. The Honors Course
9. Blackwolf Run (Composite)
10. Harbour Town (maybe Long Cove)

I was way too premature with my post, please forgive the inclusion of Bulle Rock over The HOnors Course, Ocean and Straits.

SJ McCarthy:

I don't know how much of Secession you can say is a Pete Dye course.  I believe Pete did the routing, but left the project when the job at Kiawah Island came up.  P.B. Dye took over the project, and started construction, before he had a falling out with the clients.  I actually interviewed for the job at that point, but they hired Devlin.

When I went for the interview, they had dug some ponds and moved some dirt, but there were no green complexes or bunkers in place.  All of that is Devlin's work.  At best, Pete Dye did the routing plan, which is certainly important, but does not make it a "Pete Dye" course.

After all, George Cobb did the routing for Harbour Town.

Matt:

I've played Pete's Colleton River course.  If you check my post above, you will notice that I only listed 9 Dye courses, because I did not think that any of the other Dye courses I've played deserved to be on the list. The Colleton River course is one of those that I deliberately excluded. It is a mystery to me how Pete or Tim could consider it one of his best.

I like Colleton because of its shot values, Scottish heritage (more than an occasional bad bounce) and a great low country site. I am sure the overcooked shaping style is a bit over the top for some, but to me it is high sculpture that only Pete Dye can accomplish. It is pure Pete Dye –some say artificial, but I see it is an art form that is pure, has taken a life time to develop and can not be replicated. I love it

SJ McCarthy:

I don't know how much of Secession you can say is a Pete Dye course.  I believe Pete did the routing, but left the project when the job at Kiawah Island came up.  P.B. Dye took over the project, and started construction, before he had a falling out with the clients.  I actually interviewed for the job at that point, but they hired Devlin.

When I went for the interview, they had dug some ponds and moved some dirt, but there were no green complexes or bunkers in place.  All of that is Devlin's work.  At best, Pete Dye did the routing plan, which is certainly important, but does not make it a "Pete Dye" course.

After all, George Cobb did the routing for Harbour Town.

Tom,

You are right on for the most part.  Pete did the ENTIRE routing plan, PB did the initial layout and shaping on 14+ holes.  The 14th is where the wheels in the relationship fell off.  Now, that being said, if the chef designs the menu, buys the goods mixes the ingridents, puts it in the oven, then another chef lets it cook and serves it, who's "creation" is it?

Let's be realistic, based on Bruce's other works, does Secession "feel" like one of his? Or does it feel like one of Pete / PB's work when you walk and play it?