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peter_p

Langdon Farms may become NLE
« on: February 10, 2004, 03:42:23 PM »
Langdon Farms, a John Fought-Bob Cupp course south of Portland may become NLE because it's land and surrounding
tracts may be more valuable for economic development. Zoning meetings are ongoing, a result of recent legislative and executive actions. The course sits near one of the closest under-developed freeway interchanges to Portland.

Michael Dugger

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Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2004, 04:00:28 PM »
Peter,

How do you feel about this?  I personally do not think we will miss this golf course.  The holes running right alongside I-5  don't really remind me of Scotland.  The containment mounding is abundant.  I always thought the prices were too high for the product.  It hasn't exactly raised the artform in my opinion.

I'd rather play Heron Lakes.    
What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it?     --Alistair Mackenzie--

peter_p

Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2004, 04:29:07 PM »
     The loss of Langdon Farm will put a premium on public golf south of Portland. The OGA Tukwila course at Woodburn, 10-15 minutes to the south, will be the big victor. Another winner will be the Reserve Vineyards, which is the only other public course geared for big public tournaments.
     LF does have a British feel on some holes, but is eclectic in its copying with some church pew bunkers and a Grand Cypress finish. The containment mounds are large, it does deflect the noise and sight of freeway traffic, and look better than the only alternative of a wall.
     Heron Lakes are better designs, but I have to drive through Portland traffic to get there.
     
    On a side note, Green Mountain GC near Camas closed it's doors, at least temporarily. Guess it lost out to Camas Meadows in the fight. Shows you can't build two courses when there's only enough business for one.
     

Mike Benham

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Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2004, 04:34:15 PM »
Is Langdon Farms the course with the barn in play?
"... and I liked the guy ..."

peter_p

Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2004, 04:39:28 PM »
Yes, but I've usually sliced away from it.

Michael Dugger

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Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2004, 04:46:43 PM »
Peter,

I did not know Green Mountain shut down, although from my one play of it I am not surprised.  Camas is a superior course.

RE: Langdon

I think the OGA course is a fine public facility.  I recently read somewhere that there total rounds played has been down as of late.  Hopefully, that should change, it's a lot of bang for the buck in my opinion.  More so than Langdon.
What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it?     --Alistair Mackenzie--

yogi_barry

Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2004, 04:50:08 PM »
Where is Green Mountain?  Who designed it?  When was it built?  It's been some time since I've been there - but is either Camas Meadows or Green Mountain the course at Lacamas Lake?

peter_p

Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2004, 05:12:38 PM »
Steve,
6170 yard Green Mountain is 5 years old, can't find out the architect. It is NW of the tip of Lacamas Lake. The GM and
course operator were evicted by the owners, so it may reopen in the future.

www.camaspostrecord.com/CPRSports0.html for article
« Last Edit: February 10, 2004, 05:13:57 PM by Peter Pittock »

Michael Dugger

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Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2004, 05:35:26 PM »
Green Mountain and Camas Meadows are about a mile or less apart.  I thought Green M. would be a decent course with some better maintenance.  Too much long, unbearable rough, too many small corridors.  Need to whack some trees and clean up the drainage issues.  

There is some decent golf to be had there, although a few holes are sort of tight and dangerous.  I hope they fix it up and keep it around.

Camas Meadows is a nice tract for this area.  Sort of segmented with a couple of gimmicky holes, I despise the fact that you can't really walk there.  Yet, it's in my top 10-15 in the greater Portland area.
What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it?     --Alistair Mackenzie--

JohnV

Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2004, 06:14:46 PM »
Gee and I thought the Maletis brothers bought Langdon because they loved golf.  Why am I not surprised that they might love money more. :(

I only played Langdon once or twice before I left Portland and thought there were some good holes on it, but never really warmed to the total package.

Peter, why do you say that the Reserve is the only course geared for big public tournaments.  There is another public course just a few miles north of it that seems to be geared that way.

peter_p

Re:Langdon Farms may become NLE
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2004, 06:20:36 PM »
John,
 I humbly stand corrected. Ghost Creek @ Pumpkin Ridge certainly fills the bill.