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Simon Barrington

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #75 on: December 10, 2024, 10:16:13 AM »
I question the notion that the greens staff are/were the ones driving the change to remove the livestock from the course. It would not surprise me at all if a sizable number of club members have been wanting to do this for many years.
Agreed
(Only time will tell if they were correct)
« Last Edit: December 12, 2024, 05:11:48 AM by Simon Barrington »

Chris Hughes

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #76 on: December 20, 2024, 11:15:25 PM »
I question the notion that the greens staff are/were the ones driving the change to remove the livestock from the course.


Specifically, what have you heard/seen that makes you think this?
"Is it the Chicken Salad or the Golf Course that attracts and retains members?"

James Boon

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #77 on: December 21, 2024, 11:16:39 AM »
Chris,


In the papers the club put together around this issue ahead of the vote, they mention / remind that in the early 2000s there was a similar vote and the members wanted to remove the livestock then, but for various reasons it was never followed through. I'm not a regular enough visitor to the club to know exactly what the membership feel, but if they wanted to remove the livestock 20 odd years ago, it would surprise me if this recent development was just driven by the greenstaff.


Cheers,


James
 
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Chris Hughes

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #78 on: December 21, 2024, 07:25:56 PM »
Chris,


In the papers the club put together around this issue ahead of the vote, they mention / remind that in the early 2000s there was a similar vote and the members wanted to remove the livestock then, but for various reasons it was never followed through. I'm not a regular enough visitor to the club to know exactly what the membership feel, but if they wanted to remove the livestock 20 odd years ago, it would surprise me if this recent development was just driven by the greenstaff.


Cheers,


James


Interesting, thanks.


Sounds kinda vague, where can we read about that?
"Is it the Chicken Salad or the Golf Course that attracts and retains members?"

Ben Sims

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #79 on: December 21, 2024, 11:32:28 PM »
Chris,


In the papers the club put together around this issue ahead of the vote, they mention / remind that in the early 2000s there was a similar vote and the members wanted to remove the livestock then, but for various reasons it was never followed through. I'm not a regular enough visitor to the club to know exactly what the membership feel, but if they wanted to remove the livestock 20 odd years ago, it would surprise me if this recent development was just driven by the greenstaff.


Cheers,


James


Interesting, thanks.


Sounds kinda vague, where can we read about that?


The club sent out a detailed information packet to members for both issues presented in the EGM.

Chris Hughes

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #80 on: Yesterday at 01:49:50 PM »
Chris,


In the papers the club put together around this issue ahead of the vote, they mention / remind that in the early 2000s there was a similar vote and the members wanted to remove the livestock then, but for various reasons it was never followed through. I'm not a regular enough visitor to the club to know exactly what the membership feel, but if they wanted to remove the livestock 20 odd years ago, it would surprise me if this recent development was just driven by the greenstaff.


Cheers,


James


Interesting, thanks.


Sounds kinda vague, where can we read about that?


The club sent out a detailed information packet to members for both issues presented in the EGM.


Excellent.


Was there a vote in the "early 2000's" as mentioned above? 


How much will the contractual/legal costs be for executing on the recent ill-advised successful vote?
"Is it the Chicken Salad or the Golf Course that attracts and retains members?"

Ben Sims

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #81 on: Yesterday at 03:35:40 PM »
Chris,


I think it was mentioned in the info packet but I can’t be sure. I’m too busy experimenting with Yorkshire puddings to look it up.


You seem very struck by this decision. I hope your holiday season can make up for the pain you seem to be feeling over Brora’s membership deciding what they think is best for Brora. Merry Christmas.

Chris Hughes

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #82 on: Today at 12:31:11 AM »
Chris,


I think it was mentioned in the info packet but I can’t be sure. I’m too busy experimenting with Yorkshire puddings to look it up.


You seem very struck by this decision. I hope your holiday season can make up for the pain you seem to be feeling over Brora’s membership deciding what they think is best for Brora. Merry Christmas.




@BenMalach, does this constitute an "Ad hominem attack"?!?




 ;D ;D ;D
"Is it the Chicken Salad or the Golf Course that attracts and retains members?"

Ben Sims

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Re: The End Of An Era At Brora?
« Reply #83 on: Today at 11:59:03 AM »
Chris,


Perhaps you’re right. I didn’t think what I wrote was an attack as much as I thought it was a polite way of saying that 1) you’re not going to get the answer you want and 2) no one here is under an obligation to provide club data to you. I’m sure you understand that when clubs give proprietary information to their members, discretion is to be expected.


Back to your latest. If we’re going to engage in the fun of identifying poster’s logical fallacies, I’d just ask that you weren’t so forceful about shifting the burden of proof to others here that have tried to provide you information. Claiming that staff is driving the bus or round-about insinuating that another poster’s words are vague and so you need more proof is just not productive. People have reasoned with you and because you don’t like the answer, you browbeat. I’m not sure what else to say except that if it matters this much, they will gladly accept your membership application without delay at Brora. They’re great people, it’s a lovely village, and the golf course is pretty good with other courses of interest nearby. But before you jump in though, ask yourself if it’s the sheep or the golf course that attracts and retains members at Brora.