[Matt Schoolfield]

Bulging convex irons? Why not just bring back concave wedges for more spin too?

[Erik J. Barzeski]

Not sure why you're asking: hybrids, woods, and drivers have bulge and roll. Concave ≠ convex.

[JohnVDB]

The rules are there and the people who enforce them are not going to approve something that isn’t allowed.  If there is something that they don’t like, they may change the rules at the next revision, but for now they are certainly legal.

[Kalen Braley]

On a related note, just read this about Bryson:

"He said he struggled with controlling his speed on the greens, contributing that to not being able to use his Foresight launch monitor on the practice green this week. "

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/bryson-dechambeau-now-a-masters-chaser-after-horrific-break-at-15/ar-BB1lzLmg?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=d0dfe987ff384cb08e0cd8bdcf554ed6&ei=16

I thought aids were allowed in practice areas?

[Jeff Schley]

On a related note, just read this about Bryson:

"He said he struggled with controlling his speed on the greens, contributing that to not being able to use his Foresight launch monitor on the practice green this week. "

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/bryson-dechambeau-now-a-masters-chaser-after-horrific-break-at-15/ar-BB1lzLmg?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=d0dfe987ff384cb08e0cd8bdcf554ed6&ei=16

I thought aids were allowed in practice areas?

He has a unique approach for sure.  Talent for sure and when he puts well typically scores in majors.  I don't know how iron stats compared to say scheffler or McElroy, but with how one length irons he is longer I would assume.

[Peter Flory]

Bulging convex irons? Why not just bring back concave wedges for more spin too?

The rationale behind banning those was that there could be multiple impacts on the face if it was concave.  With a convex face, like that of a wood, that isn't an issue. 

[Mike_Clayton]

With all that's happened since to make the game easier it's comical to look back at the massive fuss everyone made over an infinitesimal measurement on the mid-1980s Ping Eye 2 irons.


Looking back it was the beginning of the equipment problem. The administration burned by the case let manufacturers expand drivers to  a ridiculous size- one consequence being the elimination of both the duck-hook and the fear of the duck hook.

[Simon Barrington]

With all that's happened since to make the game easier it's comical to look back at the massive fuss everyone made over an infinitesimal measurement on the mid-1980s Ping Eye 2 irons.


Looking back it was the beginning of the equipment problem. The administration burned by the case let manufacturers expand drivers to  a ridiculous size- one consequence being the elimination of both the duck-hook and the fear of the duck hook.

Absolutely, and at the end of the tortuous legal case it was more than ironic that the only company able at that time to resolve the situation from an engineering angle to adjust clubs already sold, were PING themselves.
I still have my laminated credit card sized certificate for the conforming adjustment of my Eye 2 grooves on my 1-iron!

[Niall C]

With all that's happened since to make the game easier it's comical to look back at the massive fuss everyone made over an infinitesimal measurement on the mid-1980s Ping Eye 2 irons.


Looking back it was the beginning of the equipment problem. The administration burned by the case let manufacturers expand drivers to  a ridiculous size- one consequence being the elimination of both the duck-hook and the fear of the duck hook.

Personally I was too pre-occupied with trying to control my wild slice to worry about a duck hook.


Niall


ps. I still play with Ping Eye 2's

[Ben Stephens]

With all that's happened since to make the game easier it's comical to look back at the massive fuss everyone made over an infinitesimal measurement on the mid-1980s Ping Eye 2 irons.


Looking back it was the beginning of the equipment problem. The administration burned by the case let manufacturers expand drivers to  a ridiculous size- one consequence being the elimination of both the duck-hook and the fear of the duck hook.

Personally I was too pre-occupied with trying to control my wild slice to worry about a duck hook.


Niall


ps. I still play with Ping Eye 2's

Better go to Gainsborough to get your Ping Eye 2's fitted properly! I liked the Beryllium Copper version of the Ping Eye 2s but opted for the Lynx Parallax irons of the early 1990s which were great clubs!

[Rob Marshall]

With all that's happened since to make the game easier it's comical to look back at the massive fuss everyone made over an infinitesimal measurement on the mid-1980s Ping Eye 2 irons.


Looking back it was the beginning of the equipment problem. The administration burned by the case let manufacturers expand drivers to  a ridiculous size- one consequence being the elimination of both the duck-hook and the fear of the duck hook.

Interesting, I must have a defective driver. I still can hit a duck-hook........

[David_Tepper]

"The Science Behind Bryson's Irons" (22-minute video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I8H-1L5Zvo
 

[Pete_Pittock]

No problem with it.  I do have a hard time wrapping my head around the numbers on iron lofts. I read that Bryson's 5 iron has a loft of 17 degrees. Back in the 60s and 70s that was a one iron.  Trevino should rethink hoisting it up in a thunderstorm if a mortal can hit it, certainly God would be able to do so.

[Tom_Doak]

No problem with it.  I do have a hard time wrapping my head around the numbers on iron lofts. I read that Bryson's 5 iron has a loft of 17 degrees. Back in the 60s and 70s that was a one iron.  Trevino should rethink hoisting it up in a thunderstorm if a mortal can hit it, certainly God would be able to do so.

Claude Harmon told me a few years ago that when old-timer players would come to watch Dustin Johnson or Brooks Koepka practice, they were bewildered at first, because they couldn't see where the ball was going.  He would have to point to the sky and mouth "higher" to clue them in!  With today's swing speeds, a 17-degree loft goes a lot higher than it used to.

[cary lichtenstein]

He's a new guy, I love him

[archie_struthers]

 


When those eye-2 irons came out I immediately put the 1-5 in my bag and got rid of my gorgeous Wilson Staff forged blades that corresponded. Kept the 6-9 irons > course my bag was now looking like a grab bag from hell.  There were the ping irons mixed with Staff 6-9 and two Cleveland wedges
A driver of course (beautiful persimmon MacGregor Eye o Matic and a really neat Cobra Baffler three wood (with the rails) Ping Anser but of course


Man o man thought I was way ahead of the curve !

[Tim Martin]

When those eye-2 irons came out I immediately put the 1-5 in my bag and got rid of my gorgeous Wilson Staff forged blades that corresponded. Kept the 6-9 irons > course my bag was now looking like a grab bag from hell.  There were the ping irons mixed with Staff 6-9 and two Cleveland wedges
A driver of course (beautiful persimmon MacGregor Eye o Matic and a really neat Cobra Baffler three wood (with the rails) Ping Anser but of course


Man o man thought I was way ahead of the curve !

Archie-I remember the switch from blades to Ping Eye 2+ irons fondly. I played them forever and the only reason I ditched them was because I couldn’t swing stiff shafts any longer. That was a common setup where guys used Pings for the long irons and forged for the scoring clubs. I’ve been a lifelong devotee of the Ping brand and of the twelve clubs I carry only two hybrids are not Pings.

[Ken Moum]

No problem with it.  I do have a hard time wrapping my head around the numbers on iron lofts. I read that Bryson's 5 iron has a loft of 17 degrees. Back in the 60s and 70s that was a one iron.  Trevino should rethink hoisting it up in a thunderstorm if a mortal can hit it, certainly God would be able to do so.

I have a set of PXG 0211 irons, and a set of 1980s Haig Ultra blades, and there is an almost perfect two-club difference in loft.  The 6 and 8 irons are identical @ 32*  and the 3 and 5 irons a 20* and 21*.  They're closer at the bottom, The PXG G wedge is 48 and the Haig P wedge is 50


As a result, I currently only carry the 8,9, W, G, and 52*, 54* and 59*.


I can't imagine how Bryson manages wedges that are both strong, and way overlength.

[DFarron]

When those eye-2 irons came out I immediately put the 1-5 in my bag and got rid of my gorgeous Wilson Staff forged blades that corresponded. Kept the 6-9 irons > course my bag was now looking like a grab bag from hell.  There were the ping irons mixed with Staff 6-9 and two Cleveland wedges
A driver of course (beautiful persimmon MacGregor Eye o Matic and a really neat Cobra Baffler three wood (with the rails) Ping Anser but of course


In the '80's that was common in a lot of pro's bags (tour and club).


Man o man thought I was way ahead of the curve !

A lot of the pros in the late 80’s and early 90’s had that set up.

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