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Kevin_Reilly

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Re: Impossible Putts
« Reply #100 on: August 03, 2021, 05:00:04 PM »
I'm assuming you didn't actually watch it...


Jeez, I feel like I am explaining a joke.  Those Expert Village "how to" videos by the guy in white socks have been on YouTube for ages and the guy is obviously horrible. 


The main point in the video is the claim he puts side spin on putts, among other things.  I thought I was supporting your point of view with this great instructional video.


Carry on!
"GOLF COURSES SHOULD BE ENJOYED RATHER THAN RATED" - Tom Watson

JESII

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Re: Impossible Putts
« Reply #101 on: August 03, 2021, 08:24:26 PM »
Ha…yes.


I left the Seinfeld Maestro post for a couple hours with no reaction so assumed you were offended!

Kevin_Reilly

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Re: Impossible Putts
« Reply #102 on: August 04, 2021, 10:18:06 AM »
 ;D


The Maestro comment was great.  I was too busy studying his other videos...literally he has a video for every club in the bag, and they are all like this one for the 4-iron:


https://youtu.be/GO26ahnJvR4
"GOLF COURSES SHOULD BE ENJOYED RATHER THAN RATED" - Tom Watson

Jon Sweet

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Re: Impossible Putts
« Reply #103 on: August 04, 2021, 10:33:17 AM »
Thomas, Yes, but I’ve never seen someone intend to, and successfully put certain side spin on a putt to counteract a side slope they had to deal with.  The variables of the strike and roll are so great as to make this idea float like a lead balloon!


Jim (and others), here is a two-minute video that demonstrates the technique!


https://youtu.be/sa1fhS6O64o
This honestly might be the worst putter I have ever seen.


Rick Lane

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Re: Impossible Putts
« Reply #104 on: August 04, 2021, 10:47:35 AM »
He had two-shots to make PAR (EXPERT PLAY, remember) from 30 feet.


Actually, he had THREE shots to make par.


The complaint (comment?) was that after driving the green on a short par four, he couldn't see a way to get his EAGLE putt closer than 10 feet.


While I certainly have sympathy for anyone with a putt that difficult, I'm pretty sure there are plenty of examples of holes where "good" drives that end up in the wrong place strategically leave even a great player with no chance of getting closer than 10 feet.


Note that I said good drives in the wrong place , as opposed to plain old bad drives.


Where I play in the winter, Red Mountain Ranch CC, the eight hole is a short par four that's theoretically driveable, but players who choose the "correct" tees typically have a wedge or nine iron approach.  If the hole is in front of that green and you hit it in the middle, leaving 10 feet would be a good first putt.


When the course opened it had bent grass greens and that same putt would usually end up 10 yards off the green.


I think this is a great point, as the question starts with a driveable par 4, and I think it would also apply to a reachable par 5.   Seems to me to be very fair to have the result of “going for it” have both good and bad outcomes, possibly putting you in a place where you realistically have a hard time 2 putting, versus understanding where the pin is, and laying up to attack with a wedge or some other controlled shot.  My course has both types of holes, and depending on the pin location, the members would use 2 different strategies on different days.   Isn’t that ok?