Redan Par 3 Holes - 2020 Catalog

[Jeff Schley]

IO can recall playing 2 'homages'.


3 rounds at Chart Hills Kent  Smyers/Faldo.  Each time the semi blind, slightly sloping "USGA" green has held my shot with minimal run. OK hole but not a reflection of the original.




2 rounds at West Cliffs, Portugal. Cynthia Dye. Both times my ball ran off the green (from 130 yards). Both times I was as many feet below the surface as I was off it.  Both times I had to land my chip (from thick 2" grass) onto a knife edge crease.
Awful hole and nothing to do with the original.


Surprised there's not been more examples given, I've often heard it described as the most copied template?

Tony glad to include these if you give me the hole numbers as I did a cursory research and didn't find anything to use.

[Jeff Schley]

From a lurker:


Rock Spring is in NJ, not NYWanumetonomy #17Dedham #17 (Reverse Redan)Dudley Hill (Mass.) Golf Club, #6

Done. Also looked at the Wanu course on youtube and doesn't appear to have much right to left movement?

[Bill Healy]

Is Three at Ballyhack a true Redan design?.
The tee shot is downhill.
Green orientation not fully “ten to four” on the clock.
The right third of the green slopes back to front and tilts left to right.
Oblique ridges separate the putting surface into several sections.
Bill Healy

[Paul Rudovsky]

two more:


#3 at Essex Fells CC, NJ...reverse
#16 at CC of North Carolina, Pinehurst, NC  (was more of a Redan before recent renovation)

[John Ezekowitz]

Brian Silva built a pretty devilish uphill redan at GreatHorse in Western MA. This year during the Mass Mid-Am, it played as the most difficult hole in round 2 (3.75 average) when the pin was front left just over the bunker.


I'd argue the slope of the front of the green is too severe for the speed that the greens were at during the tournament, but that seems to be the subject of another thread.

[Pete Lavallee]

#7 Barona Creek San Diego Todd Eckenrode.

[Steve Okula]

I have built several Redan holes but the 17th at CommonGround is NOT one of them.   


Mine are/were:


  4th High Pointe*
16th Charlotte Golf Links*
14th Apache Stronghold
17th Pacific Dunes
17th Stonewall (North)
16th St. Andrews Beach  [kind of]
12th Old Macdonald
  8th Simapo Island*
  4th The Loop (Red) [kind of]


* no longer existing

Tom, is your 12th at St Emilion not a redan?

[Bill Brightly]

Blowing Rock, Hole #2, Blowing Rock, NC. Raynor's only course in NC.

[Bill Crane]

#17  at Whippoorwill in Armonk, NY.   
Classic "Steamshovel Banks"  design.
Some very interesting holes and settings and a routing that goes all over the place. A difficult walk.

Bill

[Bill Crane]

If the 13th at Yale is a Redan, then I expect this list to be about 5,000 holes long.


There have been many, many discussions on the defining characteristics of a Redan. But for me it’s simple:


Angled green where you can reach a back pin position in one of two ways: Fly directly at it over a bunker OR play out wide, land ball short and feed it down on the front to back slope.


Without all of these features, you are describing a hole so common it is not worthy of being given a name.


Yale is fantastic by the way. But a drop-shot Redan just cannot really exist.

OK OK....it's off.....
But I took it from Andy Johnson's Fried Egg Redan piece.
https://thefriedegg.com/redan-template-hole/

The best REDAN green at Yale is on the Par 4 8th hole.    What a green!! 

And,,,, the best hole on the course,  Colin Sheehan and I agree.   

Think about that.

Bill