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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Omaha CC
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2021, 05:24:04 PM »
Jeff:


There's a ton of speculation in that post about Willie Dunn.  After a very prolific early career in the States designing courses, Dunn suffered a fractured skull around 1901.  His design career seemingly disappeared overnight until being revived again in the 20's in the western States.  Nothing he did late in his career is much to note.


Here's the basic history of Pioneer Park in articles.  First up, the pre-Depression discussions with Dunn and Harry MacNeal.


Dec. 7, 1928 Lincoln Star -




Feb. 28, 1929 Lincoln Star -




March 12, 1929 Lincoln Star -








March 13, 1929 Lincoln Evening Journal -





March 18, 1929 Lincoln Evening Journal -





"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Sven Nilsen

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Re: Omaha CC
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2021, 05:40:46 PM »
Next, after a hiatus of any mention in the press for a year, the project was revived.


March 27, 1930 Lincoln Star -








April 24, 1930 Lincoln Star -



Aug. 18, 1930 Lincoln Star -




Jan. 8, 1931 Lincoln Star -








April 3, 1932 Lincoln Star -








Sept. 9, 1932 Lincoln Evening Journal -





July 21, 1934 Lincoln Journal Star -





Aug. 16, 1934 Lincoln Star -





Sept. 20, 1934 Lincoln Star -





Jan. 14, 1935 Lincoln Journal Star -





July 26, 1935 Lincoln Star -





July 27, 1934 Lincoln Star -


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"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

Sven Nilsen

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Re: Omaha CC
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2021, 06:09:33 PM »
Here's a link to an article from Ed Oden's Perry Maxwell Archive site discussing Maxwell's involvement with OCC.  Of particular interest is Maxwell's statement that he doesn't use plans or blueprints, but instead sits in a chair directing the operations of the bulldozers.


https://6b12140f-e9be-45f7-863b-4c92a380f9d3.filesusr.com/ugd/b38e91_594735adcec9423e9e1a69c85db07a48.pdf
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"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

"There's the golf hole; play it any way you please." Donald Ross

David Grady

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Re: Omaha CC
« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2021, 11:13:11 AM »

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It’s poor form of the club to claim it as such, if they know better, but that’s the nature of this business.


As a long time member of a Stiles course (Haverhill CC) who married into an OCC family, I've long been put off by the club's shoehorning Maxwell's name and legacy into their own. I was pleased to see in the course preview in the broadcast that the chairman of the championship noted Stiles' role in the routing. Not sure whether it was the club's or Foster's idea to use Maxwell's style as the guiding principle in the restoration, but Jeff's comment leads me to believe Foster acceded to the club's wishes.


As a general observation, the routings of Haverhill and Omaha are remarkably similar. The ninth hole on each are practically identical uphill slight dogleg right with blind seconds for all but the longest hitters. The uphill 18th holes are mirror images -- HCC left to right and OCC right to left. Both have back-to-back short pars at 13 (slightly downhill) and 14 (slightly uphill). OCC has added a new tee for this year's open on 14 so the hole now plays 380 and seems far less interesting than it was at 320.



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Has the creek been piped under the 10th fairway?  It's not shown on aerials and I recall it forced a bit of a layup from the tee for the bigger hitters.


Looks like it was done in preparation for the last US Open. I remember it forcing a layup with an iron in my younger days. I think it plays better now as a par 4.5. It's somewhat funny that we'd like to re-open the creek crossing our 3rd fairway that was buried back in the late 60s.
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V_Halyard

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Re: Omaha CC
« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2021, 12:47:12 PM »
OF note. The course suffered major damage last night. Texting with a friend on the board he has shared  they had Hurricane-like winds and started cleaning up at 430 for a US Sr Open first tee time at 1015.

"It's a tiny little ball that doesn't even move... how hard could it be?"  I will walk and carry 'til I can't... or look (really) stupid.

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Omaha CC
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2021, 01:11:25 PM »
OF note. The course suffered major damage last night. Texting with a friend on the board he has shared  they had Hurricane-like winds and started cleaning up at 430 for a US Sr Open first tee time at 1015.


https://www.golfchannel.com/news/major-storm-damage-delays-third-round-us-senior-open
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Omaha CC
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2021, 09:25:14 PM »
Sven,


Sorry to cause topic drift, but I do appreciate you posting all those articles, as it is more than Ron provided.  It really is something that in march it's Dunn, and in April it's Tucker, but stranger things have happened.  The article mentions a hole too close to the road as a reason, but it might be something more than that, who knows.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

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