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Ronald Montesano

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Architects as professional golfers
« on: July 13, 2019, 01:02:46 PM »
"In 1916, golf course architect [/size]Devereux Emmet[/color][/size] and his son Devereux Emmet, Jr. won the father-son tournament at Sleepy Hollow Country Club. This prompted the [/color][/size]United States Golf Association[/color][/size] to institute the "architects rule" that barred golf course architects from competing as amateurs in tournaments.[/color]"




https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1917/02/25/98242300.pdf

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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Architects as professional golfers
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2019, 01:35:16 PM »
Fascinating quote.  "Apropos of golf architects and golf courses, it should be remembered that the finest course is the one that approaches nearest to natural conditions favorable to golf. If a course strikes a visitor as artificial, no matter how well constructed it may be, it is considered a failure by the real experts."
 
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Architects as professional golfers
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2019, 02:18:50 PM »
Fascinating indeed.
Why that sentiment & belief, in that time and place?
Under what ethos & value system was a course -- *no matter how well constructed* -- considered a failure if it didn't look natural but artificial instead?
With it being still relatively early in the life cycle of American gca, why the criticism (and not a celebration) of the hand of man?

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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Architects as professional golfers
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2019, 03:07:30 PM »
If architects made up a "pro" tour today, most of us would get paid less than the US Women's soccer team....and wouldn't be worth even that, based on the 0.0001% of golfers who would come out and pay to see us play. ;)
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Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Architects as professional golfers
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 04:03:23 PM »
Surely this kind of thing was commonplace at that time in all sports which differentiated between professionals and amateurs.


Earning one's living as a sports reporter was sufficient to disbar one from playing Rugby Union, until recently a wholly amateur sport. Similarly track & field.


It would be logical to many in those days that earning one's living in the golf industry disqualified one from playing golf as an amateur.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Architects as professional golfers
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 07:43:58 PM »
Quote from: Jeff_Brauer on July 13, 2019, 03:07:30 PM
If architects made up a "pro" tour today, most of us would get paid less than the US Women's soccer team....and wouldn't be worth even that, based on the 0.0001% of golfers who would come out and pay to see us play. ;)


I might pay to see you play the Quarry. Could be instructional or at least fun.
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