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Mark Smolens

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Re: AZ golf -- My Ten Best ...
« Reply #125 on: March 20, 2018, 01:15:45 PM »
Desert Forest on list at #12??? Sorry, but after finally getting out to the Valley at the same time as my esteemed host Mr. Moore, I don't believe that either course at Whisper Rock or any course at Desert Mountain would find a place higher on my list of best in AZ...

Jeff Schley

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« Reply #126 on: March 20, 2018, 01:21:47 PM »
Desert Forest on list at #12??? Sorry, but after finally getting out to the Valley at the same time as my esteemed host Mr. Moore, I don't believe that either course at Whisper Rock or any course at Desert Mountain would find a place higher on my list of best in AZ...


So you have Desert Forest #1 I take it.  What stood out to you?
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: AZ golf -- My Ten Best ...
« Reply #127 on: March 20, 2018, 01:24:53 PM »
Joel,


Since Bob Parsons has rejected raters/panelists from playing , I doubt that " The Other Course" will be officially designated by GD as #1 in AZ; however, I note that Mineshaft, the original course, is rated #17 Best in State by GD. Interesting. Also, I note that Ron Whitten has not yet written or tweeted about his visit to " The Other Course"


Visit Jackson Kahn's website to see some pics of their work on both courses:
http://www.jacksonkahndesign.com/sngcnew.html


http://www.jacksonkahndesign.com/sngcreno.html




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Joel_Stewart

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Re: AZ golf -- My Ten Best ...
« Reply #128 on: March 20, 2018, 10:57:33 PM »
Joel,


Since Bob Parsons has rejected raters/panelists from playing , I doubt that " The Other Course" will be officially designated by GD as #1 in AZ; however, I note that Mineshaft, the original course, is rated #17 Best in State by GD. Interesting. Also, I note that Ron Whitten has not yet written or tweeted about his visit to " The Other Course"



It took maybe 6 or 8 years before Friars Head had enough votes to be rated by GD. Nanea in  Hawaii still doesn't have enough votes so I suspect the The Other Course will eventually get its due.  Golf Digest refuses to change with the times and uses an antiquated system so it takes time for some courses.

Mike Wagner

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Re: AZ golf -- My Ten Best ...
« Reply #129 on: March 27, 2018, 02:05:22 PM »
It's a diversified type of golf (desert vs. tree lined is quite polarizing) out here .. and make whatever lists you want, but you'd be missing out on some fun golf if you missed Papago and GCU.

Rob Rigg

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Re: AZ golf -- My Ten Best ...
« Reply #130 on: April 02, 2018, 10:31:19 PM »
Dave Zinkand's work at DF looks really impressive. The course has always been a great walk, but the renovations appear to have added a lot of interest and a level of refinement that this wonderful track deserves. Some really thoughtful changes to enhance a few opportunities that existed.

It's been several years since I've teed it in AZ but I'd have to say that the rankings do not align with my personal sentiments after living there for a couple of years and playing many of the pubs and privates listed.

Whisper Rock is a really cool club - a fun and unique spot, but DF is a more interesting walk and architectural experience for a purist than either the Upper or Lower.

WKP Saguaro is well worth a visit and I'd rather tee it there over many on the list above it for interest and enjoyment.

A thorough review of The Other Course would be welcome (although it sounds unlikely). The land at formerly knows as GCS is pretty rad and the original course left so much to be desired.

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