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Paul Dolton

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Hoylake devlopment.
« on: December 11, 2017, 01:07:14 PM »

I think a few years ago Jack Nicklaus was being mentioned as the architect . Anybody know the latest ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-42279964

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Hoylake devlopment.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2017, 01:25:34 PM »
I'll be amazed if this ever happens. The fact that, after all these years, it's still the local council behind it, is not a good sign. I cannot believe that the council is actually going to develop it itself. So where's the money coming from?
Adam Lawrence

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Niall C

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Re: Hoylake devlopment.
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2017, 06:09:54 AM »
Come on Adam, don’t you recall how the development of Balmedie saved the Aberdeen economy in the midst of the great recession ? And what about that proposed development at the far end of nowhere called Embo ? Allegedly that will not only greatly boost the economy but also save the planet !!!
 
OK, I’m being ever so slightly facetious but what’s the problem with the Council promoting this venture ? (ignoring any planning/environmental concerns for the moment).
 
Niall

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Hoylake devlopment.
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2017, 07:38:52 AM »
Niall -- promoting is one thing, funding is another. Do you really think that local authorities should be spending ratepayers' money on something as risky as a golf development?
Adam Lawrence

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Principal, Oxford Golf Consulting
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Author, 'More Enduring Than Brass: a biography of Harry Colt' (forthcoming).

Short words are best, and the old words, when short, are the best of all.

Niall C

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Re: Hoylake devlopment.
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2017, 09:34:33 AM »
Adam


Frankly no. However, only having scanned the attached link, I don't think it said anything about the Council developing or even funding the development. What they might be doing (and I really don't know) is promoting the site through the planning system with a view to a sale to a developer in much the same way North Ayrshire did with what became Dundonald. I think that a more likely scenario than them developing themselves in this or indeed any other financial climate.


Niall


 

Jonathan Mallard

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Adam Lawrence

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Re: Hoylake devlopment.
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2017, 11:10:57 AM »
Niall -- yes of course. My point is that the council has been plugging this 'project' for more than five years, and has repeatedly said that they expect to announce a development partner in the near future, yet doesn't seem to have one even now. To me, that says no-one in the private sector wants to put any money into it!
Adam Lawrence

Editor, Golf Course Architecture
www.golfcoursearchitecture.net

Principal, Oxford Golf Consulting
www.oxfordgolfconsulting.com

Author, 'More Enduring Than Brass: a biography of Harry Colt' (forthcoming).

Short words are best, and the old words, when short, are the best of all.

Mark Chaplin

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Re: Hoylake devlopment.
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 05:06:55 AM »
And there was me hoping Royal Liverpool was going to be developed into an interesting course.
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