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James Bennett

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Re: Free agency superintendent carousel
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2017, 06:22:44 PM »
Marc H (and Anthony N)

you guys will know a lot more about this than me, but a decade ago, my old club had really firm greens through winter.
The Course Supt took advice from neighbouring clubs with good greens and rolled the greens more, sealing the surface.  The previous approach had resulted in a more open, softer surface.
When it rained, there was significant runoff from the greens 9ie surface drainage) and things stayed firm.
The downside was that a short downpour resulted in greens that had water ponding on the surface, but 5 minutes later the water was gone.
If the surface hadn't been as firm, then the short downpour would have been absorbed by the green, ie no surface drainage.

Green conditions were fantastic that winter (I think this occurred for about three years) and poa ingress was less.
One year, we had a rogue car invade the course in the middle of winter, and blow a tyre doing donuts on a fairway (limited damage) and then drove across a green on the rim (again, incredibly, no damage) before finally bogging the car in a low area on the practice fairway - perhaps the area where surface drainage ended up.

Green renovation started very early at the end of winter/early spring, as the turf roots were crying out for some air, but the method worked.  Of course, it also turned out to be too 'near-edge' for the next committee to deal with (a 'green is good' group).

James B
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Marc Haring

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Re: Free agency superintendent carousel
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2017, 06:54:29 PM »
Compaction is truly not a good thing. I think Matt at Merion knew what he was doing and the cost of the fungicide from my memory of the presentation was insane. I had a year managing greens with very little aeration and the greens were great for that one year but then the lack of root development, thatch build up etc caught up with me. I think it could with work with a pure poa stand if you really know what your doing but otherwise no.

James Bennett

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Re: Free agency superintendent carousel
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2017, 08:13:05 PM »
edited - irrelevant to thread.

James B
« Last Edit: March 19, 2017, 09:25:18 PM by James Bennett »
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Free agency superintendent carousel
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2017, 05:40:54 AM »

Compaction is truly not a good thing. I think Matt at Merion knew what he was doing and the cost of the fungicide from my memory of the presentation was insane. I had a year managing greens with very little aeration and the greens were great for that one year but then the lack of root development, thatch build up etc caught up with me. I think it could with work with a pure poa stand if you really know what your doing but otherwise no.


Mark,
  I surprised that you didn't comment on my link to Turfnet in where Matt mentioned they gone nearly 200 days without a fungicide on greens and over 200 on fairways. Somewhere along the line his thinking apparently changed vs the spray, spray, spray thinking?
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Marc Haring

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Re: Free agency superintendent carousel
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2017, 06:46:57 AM »
Yes sorry Anthony, I kind of scanned through it and was a bit put off by the clear intensity of the man. Not my preferred management style but respect to him. Clearly when he experimented with putting concrete in the sand dressing to firm up the greens I would consider that extreme bordering on psychotic.  ::)

Jeff Evagues

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Re: Free agency superintendent carousel
« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2017, 07:08:02 AM »
Oakmont selected Dave Delsandro, an assistant on the current staff.
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