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PCCraig

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Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:43:21 AM »
Why shouldn't they be?

They are currently hosting  a junior golf tournament the day before the Masters. Could you ever see the U$GA doing the same thing?

They are major supporters of The First Tee.

They continue to support amatuer golf and continue to start new amatuer tournaments across the globe.

They have been the only major golf entity in favor of rolling back the ball.

They run The Masters perfectly.

They seem to be the only major golf organization that gets "it"
H.P.S.

Garland Bayley

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 10:44:59 AM »
Hell No!
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Sam Morrow

Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 11:02:59 AM »
All I know is that I'm enjoying watching this event this morning.

Greg Taylor

Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 11:06:00 AM »
They'd have to be way more transparent if they wanted to take anything else on and that's against their ethos I would suggest.

Is having the USGA and R&A so broke it needs fixing...?!

Carl Rogers

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2014, 11:08:41 AM »
I cannot imagine why they would want the job.
I decline to accept the end of man. ... William Faulkner

Garland Bayley

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2014, 11:14:34 AM »
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They have been the only major golf entity in favor of rolling back the ball.
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It is easy to take a stance when you have no responsibility.
They warned of the possibility they would require a competition ball if they felt more modifications to the course were necessary. Instead they went ahead with the course modifications. All bark and no bite.

Usual Jason T advice applies here.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Jim Nugent

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2014, 11:46:07 AM »
Why would anyone accept their authority?

Tom_Doak

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2014, 12:25:54 PM »
Why shouldn't they be?

They are currently hosting  a junior golf tournament the day before the Masters. Could you ever see the U$GA doing the same thing?

They are major supporters of The First Tee.

They continue to support amatuer golf and continue to start new amatuer tournaments across the globe.

They have been the only major golf entity in favor of rolling back the ball.

They run The Masters perfectly.

They seem to be the only major golf organization that gets "it"

PCraig:

Have you ever played Augusta National?

Are you hoping to someday?   :D

Jim_Coleman

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2014, 12:36:08 PM »
    That would be the end signing the correct card.  Maybe not a bad thing.

Steve Lang

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2014, 12:41:19 PM »
 8) No.

..and  at the point in time, with local rules prevailing from any given "committee", is a governing body really needed?
Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

Paul Gray

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2014, 01:50:17 PM »
You think the R&A might go for that?  ???

Or was the whole premise of the thread hugely yankcentric?
In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Chris Cupit

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2014, 02:18:55 PM »
Why shouldn't they be?
Wow.  Too numerous to even begin but I'll answer a couple of the other questions.

They are currently hosting  a junior golf tournament the day before the Masters. Could you ever see the U$GA doing the same thing?
Uh, 10 of the 13 national championships conducted by the USGA are for amateurs and two are The US. Junior Boys and US Junior Girls.  Can't even begin to count the number of state and regional golf associations running junior programs all with the help and financial support (to varying degrees) from the USGA.

They are major supporters of The First Tee.

So is the USGA

They continue to support amatuer golf and continue to start new amatuer tournaments across the globe.

So has the USGA including the new Four Ball Championship which will replace the US Publink this year.  Will be a great championships and will be relavent to many as it is the most common form of club play.

They have been the only major golf entity in favor of rolling back the ball.

Then why havent they done anything themselves?  It is their tounrament, they can set pretty much any conditions of competition they wish--they could mandate one type of conforming ball if they wanted to.  

They run The Masters perfectly.

It is a world class event although if you look at its history, it has been far from perfect.

They seem to be the only major golf organization that gets "it"

I think a lot of people in golf get "it" including many major organizations.  What exactly is the "it" you want them to fix?
« Last Edit: April 06, 2014, 02:21:30 PM by Chris Cupit »

Bill Gayne

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2014, 03:32:41 PM »
I don't think golf would look any different. There's plenty of cross representation between the ANGC, USGA, and R&A.

Terry Lavin

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2014, 03:51:48 PM »
It's all public relations. Good p.r., but p.r. nonetheless.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

Steve Lang

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Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2014, 06:01:59 PM »
 8) Lots better pr than hassling with Martha Burk
Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

BCowan

Re: Should ANGC be the sole governing body in Golf?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2014, 06:09:42 PM »
Hell No!

+1!

Here is a great article about the ruling class at Augusta....