Will the 2013 Women's Open lead to a men's US Open at Sebonack?

[BHoover]

Here are the future US Open venues...

2013 113th Merion Golf Club
2014 114th Pinehurst
2015 115th Chambers Bay 
2016 116th Oakmont Country Club
2017 117th Erin Hills 
2018 118th Shinnecock Hills Golf Club 
2019 119th Pebble Beach Golf Links 
2020 120th Winged Foot Golf Club


I can see Sebonack fitting in nicely!

So where would the 2021 US Open be played?

2021 Pinehurst
2022 Erin Hills
2023 Baltusrol
2024 Medinah
2025 Colorado Golf Club
2026 Pebble Beach
2027 Sebonack


You heard it here first!

More than 10 years between Opens at Oakmont? I can't believe that will happen. And will the USGA consider Medinah? Seems like the PGA has dibs on Medinah (and maybe Baltusrol too).

[Mac Plumart]

Well...what are your projections?


(and I'm sure you are right on Medina...but just trying to spice things up) 

[BHoover]

Well...what are your projections?


(and I'm sure you are right on Medina...but just trying to spice things up)  

I'll go with (for no particular reason):

2021 Pinehurst
2022 Oakland Hills
2023 Torrey Pines
2024 Erin Hills
2025 Olympic
2026 Oakmont
2027 Shinnecock Hills

[Mac Plumart]

You forgot Sebonack.

 

[BHoover]

You forgot Sebonack.

 

I vote Sebonack for a PGA.

[Mac Plumart]

Any chance Cherry Hills get another pro major?

[Jim Nugent]

Brian, Oakland Hills hosting the PGA may put a damper on holding the U.S. Open there. 

[BHoover]

Brian, Oakland Hills hosting the PGA may put a damper on holding the U.S. Open there. 

Good point. So is there anywhere in the Midwest that will host a future Open?

[BHoover]

Any chance Cherry Hills get another pro major?

I was asking myself the same question. I like your idea of Colorado GC. Didn't it host a senior major a couple years back?

[Matthew Petersen]

Any chance Cherry Hills get another pro major?

I was asking myself the same question. I like your idea of Colorado GC. Didn't it host a senior major a couple years back?

The Senior PGA. And this year they will have the Solheim Cup.

No USGA events there to date (it was to be the alt course for the Am last year but was scrapped). Further events are likely to be PGA-related. Hard to see a men's major there, but if it does well with the Solheim, the Ryder Cup would seem a reasonable possibility.

[Cory Lewis]

2021 Pinehurst
2022 Erin Hills
2023 Baltusrol
2024 Medinah
2025 Colorado Golf Club
2026 Pebble Beach
2027 Sebonack

I think you're pretty close on the Pinehurst date.  In an interview last year Mr. Dedman let it slip that they were already on the schedule for 2022, the USGA said they wouldn't comment on opens past 2019 at the time. 

[Phil McDade]

Brian, Oakland Hills hosting the PGA may put a damper on holding the U.S. Open there. 

Good point. So is there anywhere in the Midwest that will host a future Open?

Brian:

I think Herb Kohler would desperately want a US Open at Whistling Straits. He threw his hat in with the PGA when he took two PGAs and the Ryder Cup, but that's only through 2020. His problem is that he'll likely be competing against Erin Hills for a US Open by the mid-2020s, because I'd be very surprised if the USGA did a one-and-done w/ Erin Hills after its Open in 2017. It's Mike Davis' personal playpen, and unless things really fall apart with the championship, I'd expect another go-around (and since the USGA seems more interested in banning legal swings with a putter and not pulling back on balls and clubs, EHills is one of the few places with the length to handle what will likely be 400+ yard drives by, say, 2025.)

[Ronald Montesano]

Jesus - 9 years notice?!! Why can't they just calm down and give 3 or 4 years and pick ONE course per year to add to it??

Pinehurst has a sizeable dedicated space in the main building for the 2014 Opens gift shop. It is such a unique venue (location, resort, growing and thriving) that the USGA is wise to lock it up in its rota. I bet the PGA would love to get its hands on #2.

[Kevin_D]

Given Shinny's lock on the US Open and traffic issues for PGA, how about the Ryder Cup for Sebonack?

[Tom_Doak]

Given Shinny's lock on the US Open and traffic issues for PGA, how about the Ryder Cup for Sebonack?

Now THAT would be cool.  But I can't imagine how much the PGA of America would want to make the deal.  But, that would be the perfect time of year.

Actually the coolest idea ever floated was to play the Dunhlll Links in the Hamptons one year when the Open had been at St. Andrews, and play it at Sebonack, National and Shinnecock.  Not completely out of the question, since Mr. Rupert is a founding member at Sebonack.

[Eric Smith]

A nice article discussing future possibilities..

http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/mark-herrmann/sebonack-golf-club-proves-it-s-a-major-player-after-successful-u-s-women-s-open-1.5599947

[Patrick_Mucci]

Tom Doak,

And............... Sebonack is not member owned, ergo, only one vote counts

[Mark Chaplin]

Where else in their lives would successful people handover (a reported) $1m for leisure and not even have a vote?

Other than for the owners vanity why does Sebonack want to hold majors? Surely the members have a restricted season, pay lots of money and know its good anyway.

[Patrick_Mucci]

Does Sebonack have the room for all the infrastructure/parking/transport?

They could use Shinnecock for parking

The Shinnecock lot could accomodate about 50 or so cars, then what.

And why would the members of Shinnecock, who want to play Shinnecock, forfeit their parking lot ?

[Mark Hissey]

Does Sebonack have the room for all the infrastructure/parking/transport?

Plenty. Lots of acreage hasn't been used on the property; the total parcel is 240 acres. Parking at Westhampton airport could be utilized too. 

[Patrick_Mucci]

Does Sebonack have the room for all the infrastructure/parking/transport?

Plenty. Lots of acreage hasn't been used on the property; the total parcel is 240 acres. Parking at Westhampton airport could be utilized too. 

Mark,

That's what they do at Baltusrol, park at Newark Airport and run shuttles.

Plus, the college has ample parking in June.

[Mark Hissey]

Hi Pat.

We had 4000 spots at the potato field in town and another 300 at the Shinnecock swamp. Add to that another 250 on the property.  When you add in Westhampton airport then there is more than enough.

[Jim Nugent]

What clubs would the men hit into the greens at Sebonack?  Assume f&f conditions.   

[Ronald Montesano]

Not as many hybrids as the women hit into greens, that's for sir-tain.

You would see a lot more hybrids and long irons off tees if it played fast and firm. Guys really don't need driver on F&F unless the course measures 8K.

If you examine the other threads on the astonishment of how short the course played on days one and two for the women, that's how short it would seem if it played F&F for the men.