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Jay Flemma

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Rockaway Hunting Club - Plus Brad Faxon Weighs in on Hanse
« on: February 25, 2013, 11:40:42 AM »
http://jayflemma.thegolfspace.com/?p=4923

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“Hanse is absolutely one of my favorite architects and one of the most talented. He’s taught me a great deal about architecture, especially that great golf architecture like you find at classic, Golden Age courses makes you think your way around the golf course,” stated PGA Tour star Brad Faxon, one of the smartest Tour players when it comes to golf design. “You know how Tiger Woods is always saying in interviews that he likes courses where, ‘It’s all there in front of you,’? Well he needs to stop saying that, especially if he’s going to design golf courses, because great classic architecture is not ‘all there in front of you.’ You have to puzzle it out, and its not necessarily easy. Gil’s a master of that.”
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Charlie Gallagher

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Re: Rockaway Hunting Club - Plus Brad Faxon Weighs in on Hanse
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 01:55:19 PM »
Jay,
   I heartily agree with your observation. Good architecture reveals its subtleties only over time and through experience, sometimes even by accidental discovery. The really good stuff presents multiple options and alternative ways to solve problems in a risk and reward manner,  while providing plenty of challenge and fun. The right mix of width, green design, length, and  hazard or interesting ground features, is what makes for high interest, challenge and fun. Gil Hanse and Jim Wagner understand this in spades. Rustic Canyon, Applebrook, and Boston Golf Club each illustrate the proper employment  of these concepts in the construction of fun, interesting and challenging golf courses.

Another guy who gets it big time is Mike Nuzzo.   Nuzzo's use of width, occasional centerline hazards,  green formation that dictates the most favorable approach angle, and variety of hole lengths, coupled with the efficiency and attention to detail one finds in the construction at Wolf Point is just off the scale amazing. Don Mahaffey, who helped supervise the construction there is also a big part of why that course is such an accomplishment. When you substantially change the optimum approach angle simply by moving the hole location from one side of the green to the other, that tells you something about how much the golfer has to pay attention, and how cunning the design is. You'd have to play the place again and again in different winds to fully understand the optimum areas for driving the ball to set up the most favorable approach angle.

Both Mike and Gil often make you pick a side and attack from there. I've played Boston 21 times and I'm still uncovering it's secrets. The way these guys go about it is one hell of alot more interesting than "bunkers left, bunkers right, hit it down the middle."

Jay Flemma

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Re: Rockaway Hunting Club - Plus Brad Faxon Weighs in on Hanse
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 07:02:41 PM »
Absolutely loved the routing and the greens.  Seamless blending of all the styles
Mackenzie, MacRayBanks, Maxwell, Doak, Dye, Strantz. @JayGolfUSA, GNN Radio Host of Jay's Plays www.cybergolf.com/writerscorner