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mike_malone

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 This was said by me and a friend independently as we approached the tee at #12 at Cobbs Creek today. It is a long par four with a green that sits at an angle with bunkers front and back and a falloff to the left.  The phrase is used on courses that aren't world class.
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John Kirk

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Re: "This hole could be on any course in the world!" Any candidates?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2013, 02:24:04 AM »
Mike, good topic.

One of my favorite holes is the 13th at Stanford, a 430 par 4, flat, except for a slight (1-2 degree) right to left cant.  It's so simple, staggered bunkers where old fellas can clear the right bunker, but only the big boys can clear the left.   The wide corridor should allow the bomber to approach the FL-BR angled green, but modern rough practices disallow this.  Deep bunker front left and front right, tough up and in from behind the green, and don't forget the dreaded 60 yard bunker for pulled second shots.  Once again, to me a template flat hole that would belong anywhere.

Gib_Papazian

Re: "This hole could be on any course in the world!" Any candidates?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 03:04:42 AM »
#2 at Barona Creek. Essentially a straight, slightly uphill par-4.

Eckenrode's bunkering and green complex choices make it play like an "S-Turn" from tee to green. There is a set of fairway bunkers to the right off the tee and another larger set nibbling into the fairway from the left-side landing area.

The beauty (and simplicity) is that the green complex has one bunker that begins just off the front and wraps around to the back left - increasing in depth and severity as it moves right.

The entire left entrance is wide open for those who place the tee shot close to the left side fairway bunkers. The outer boundaries of the hole are essentially linear, but the interior hazards produce a hole that wriggles and writhes from start to finish.