17 is an interesting hole. I hit 4-iron off the tee after being told there was a stream on the other side of the hill. The guy I was playing with hit a hybrid. I was safe, but had 180 to an elevated green hitting off a downhill lie. He was about 10 yards short of the water and had 150 off a flat lie. Definitely paid off to take a chance and get close to the hazard. But on first play, there's no way to gauge how far you want to hit it. A really nice feature on what would otherwise be a good but not great hole.