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Jay Flemma

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Slightly OT: PG Tips
« on: February 10, 2012, 05:47:56 PM »
I was shopping today and saw PG Tips for the first time.  I like tea a great deal (I never actually drank coffee till I was in my mid-20s), and I saw where the Rolling Stones actually imported PG Tips to France with them when they were recording Exile on Main Street.  So I said, I have to buy this!

I get home and as I'm brewing it, I text my best Irish buddy that I have PG Tips.  He responds, "The swill of British Imperialist slime!"

It didn't taste quite that bad, (I thought it had more vanilla undertones than the "body odor of Ceylonians" he described), but it also underwhelmed a little bit...did I basically buy the "Budweiser of tea?"  Is it only number 1 in England because of size/market share?  I made a cup of Harney & Sons right after and enjoyed it twice as much.  

Golf related question:  If PG Tips were a U.K. golf course, which one would it be?

PS:  After my little taste test, I texted back to my Irish friend, "You know, I asked you about PG Tips back during Sandwich.  Shouldn't a warning have been issued at that time?"

He responded, "You asked what it was, not what it tasted like..."

I said, "Yeah but isn't a warning implied in those circumstances?'

And he responds, "The warning was right on the label...'Made in England..."
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 05:57:20 PM by Jay Flemma »
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Bill_McBride

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 05:50:45 PM »
Just "Slightly OT?"

Jay Flemma

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 05:53:42 PM »
What?  I got golf in there? ::)
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Matthew Hunt

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 05:56:31 PM »
Most big name English Tea brands are really bland....you need to get some Punjana (http://www.punjana.com/site/Home.aspx). It's only really sold in Ireland and Scotland, people from Northern Ireland who go to university in England always take a few packs in thier suitcases!  ;D

Jay Flemma

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 06:01:05 PM »
What about Barry's or Lyons?  That's what my Irish buddy recommended...

Give me fresh Moroccan mint tea instead every time...

If PG Tips were a U.K. course, which one would it be?

Pop quiz:  name two other things the Stones imported to France (besides tea) while recording Exile...
« Last Edit: February 10, 2012, 06:08:48 PM by Jay Flemma »
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Matthew Hunt

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 06:14:24 PM »
What about Barry's or Lyons?  That's what my Irish buddy recommended...

Give me fresh Moroccan mint tea instead every time...

If PG Tips were a U.K. course, which one would it be?

Pop quiz:  name two other things the Stones imported to France (besides tea) while recording Exile...

PG Tips= A 'Doak 2' course that you only play as its at the end of the road. Barry's and Lyons are good, but Punjana is the best.

edit: see http://www.punjana.com/site/Content.aspx?x=IUPx8GmZ7vAeq

Jay Flemma

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 06:19:41 PM »
Punjana doesn't have bergamot in it, does it?  I loathe the taste of Earl Grey...
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Marty Bonnar

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 07:45:19 PM »
Think what your Irish buddy was probably more alluding to is the British, ehm, 'presence' in India, esp the British East India Company. If only the Brits had properly cornered the great Guinness harvests, we'd still have a proper Empire...
FBD.

PS PG Tips did have a marvellously long TV advertising campaign using chimpanzees, so they've got that going for them...
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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2012, 11:26:10 PM »
Pregnancy Tips?  As in how to avoid, or what? ;D
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Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 02:01:43 AM »
Describing PG Tips as the 'Budweiser' of teas is probably spot on. It's OK, but I need to use two bags in a mug to get the right strength.

Tetleys - their main rival in the UK market - is IMO far superior. Yorkshire Tea though, is the best of the mainstream supermarket brands.

I do hope that one of the guys from Reddish Vale doesn't get to read this. He is production manager at PG Tips in Manchester and over the course of a very interesting round a few months ago explained to me in some detail the genesis and technical challenge of the pyramid tea bag!
« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 02:05:25 AM by Duncan Cheslett »

Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 03:40:24 AM »


PS PG Tips did have a marvellously long TV advertising campaign using chimpanzees, so they've got that going for them...


My favourite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzEBLa3PPk

Oh happy days of youth.

As Matthew says, compare the drink to any Doak 2 you like.
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Bob_Huntley

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 03:42:31 PM »
Duncan,

I use Yorkshire and think it is very good.

Jay,

I if I needed to get some information out of a terrorist I would make them swig a gallon of Earl Grey every day for a week....they would confess to anything thereafter.

Bob

Sean_A

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 07:44:28 AM »
I know nothing about the ins and outs of tea and only drink the sort which mixes with milk (except fore the odd cup of Japanese green tea which I take with sushi).  Of the name brands I think Twinings is by far the best.  PG Tips is likely the worst - certainly one I would never buy a box of.  The others will do in a pinch, but I try to avoid Tetleys as well.  Anyway, Twinings sell all sorts of that crappy smelly tea with Earl Grey being at the top of the foul list.  Jay, it sounds like you want want smelly tea and if that is the case, stay away from the classic English style teas which are blended (or black tea) to go well with milk.  I don't know how people take this sort of tea without milk.

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Mark Johnson

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2012, 10:14:13 AM »
very interesting thread, especially for someone who used to sell groceries for Unilever.

For those who don't know, Unilever refused to directly ship this product to US retailers, afraid that it will tarnish their Lipton brand.   At every sales meeting without fail, the entire sales team was begging to sell this product.

Jay Flemma

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2012, 02:02:07 PM »
Duncan,

I use Yorkshire and think it is very good.

Jay,

I if I needed to get some information out of a terrorist I would make them swig a gallon of Earl Grey every day for a week....they would confess to anything thereafter.

Bob

Good idea!  I'll have to try that next time I catch a terrorist:P   Playing hip hop accomplishes the same thing ;D

Sean, I like black tea very much, actually.  Yes I like berry - but black tea and berry like my favorite - Monk's Blend. But I drank plenty of lipton and tetley and red rose (swill).  Ask any other GCAers who've met me and they'll tell you about the gallon of unsweetened iced tea I drink each sitting.  But I even like hot tea in cold winters - and in Siberacuse we had plenty!  I grew up on tea b/c I didn't acquire the taste for coffee until I just started being a lawyer.  I met a beautiful 5'9" slim, trim photographer from California who spent some months in town.  Anyway, the first morning she woke up in my place she asked me for coffee and I told her I didn't drink it.

She put on a stern look and said, "if you EVER want me to sleep over here again:  You. Will. Have. Coffee!"

I immediately went out in single digit temperatures - well less with wind chill - in a black January morning so intent on my mission for coffee, you'd have thought I was looking for condoms instead.

I did a side by side taste test with some Tetley today and the Tetley won hands down.  I think I'll make a few big pitchers of iced tea with the PG Tips and point out that maybe Rolling Stones owned the world's ear in 1971, but they still either 1) had ordinary tastes in food (they also imported Bird's Custard, piccalilli, and Branston pickle), or 2) they were lonely for England the moment they took off from the tarmac (well at least Bill and Charley.  "I just wanted English things I was used to," Charley said.)  Keith and Mick probably couldn't care and Bobby Keys just needed SDNRNR, he didn't care where or when - "My boys that I play rock n roll with left the country...we were invited to go and we went."  he then referred to those months in France - for him, at least, as "shittin' in tall cotton..."

Anyway, moral of the story 1 -  don't believe everything you hear from rock musicians,even the Rolling Stones.  They are just as normal as us...

Moral 2 - don't get exiled for whatever reason b/c some things that you were used to turned out to be more than you could stand to lose, even Budweiser and hamburgers.

PG Tips:  Not as undrinkable as my friend said, but not swill either.  My buddy Tony dear summed it up just right:  "It's just tea."
« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 02:18:35 PM by Jay Flemma »
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Mike Hendren

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2012, 06:51:05 PM »
Just "Slightly OT?"

Bill, I was thinking about starting a thread on Goo Goo Clusters. 

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Colin Macqueen

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2012, 07:06:57 PM »
Jeepers! I opened up this thread thinking, a la Sven Nilsen, that the thread would be about PGA Tips!!

I was more than mildly surprised when it turned out otherwise. But I happen to like Earl Grey which makes me even more of an outcast. Let me tell you Earl Grey beats the living daylights out of the swill that they used to have you drink in the jute factories of Dundee....tannin beyond belief, stewed for any given 8 hour shift and thickened with a wee dose of air-borne jute fibre. Couldn't wait to get home for my Earl Grey!

Cheers Colin
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Jay Flemma

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2012, 02:36:04 PM »
We still haven't gotten to the golf question ;D

If PG Tips were a course, which would it be?  Or which architect?
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Tony_Muldoon

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Re: Slightly OT: PG Tips
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2012, 03:17:22 PM »
I hate repeating myself for the hard of understanding, so I'll just refer you to post 10.  ;)

 It really doesn't merit any further consideration.
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