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Mike Vegis @ Kiawah

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Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« on: September 12, 2011, 04:53:33 PM »
As we're less than a year out from the PGA Championship, I'll be posting interesting tidbits on The Ocean Course from time to time.  I got this from our Superintendent.  It's the amount of tended turf on The Ocean Course.  I would imagine that with the Coore and Crenshaw renovations at No. 2, it might be similar.  I would also imagine that it's about 1/3 of what a normal course has:

Front 9 :  42.25 Acres (grass only)
Greens :  1.33 Acres
Tees :   1.72 Acres
Fairways : 13.7 Acres
Roughs : 25.5
Sand : 13 acres (estimate only)


Back 9 : 43.13 Acres (grass only)
Greens : 1.46 Acres
Tees : 1.97 Acres
Fairways : 14.3 Acres
Roughs : 25.4 Acres
Sand : 14 Acres (estimate only)

Range : 20 Acres
Range Tee : 1.28 Acres

Paspalum Field : 2.2 Acres (the field behind the 1st tee to where the old clubhouse used to be)

Total Acreage : 108.86 Acres

Tom_Doak

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 05:59:51 PM »
Mike:

100 acres is a lot of grass, actually ... in Arizona courses are limited to less than 90.  And I don't remember the number I heard for Pinehurst, but it is WAY less than 90, because so much of it is open sand or pine needles.

Carl Nichols

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 11:46:40 PM »
I think my entire home club sits on about 120 acres

jeffwarne

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2011, 08:30:16 AM »

.  I would also imagine that it's about 1/3 of what a normal course has:

Front 9 :  42.25 Acres (grass only)
Greens :  1.33 Acres
Tees :   1.72 Acres
Fairways : 13.7 Acres
Roughs : 25.5
Sand : 13 acres (estimate only)


Back 9 : 43.13 Acres (grass only)
Greens : 1.46 Acres
Tees : 1.97 Acres
Fairways : 14.3 Acres
Roughs : 25.4 Acres
Sand : 14 Acres (estimate only)

Range : 20 Acres
Range Tee : 1.28 Acres

Paspalum Field : 2.2 Acres (the field behind the 1st tee to where the old clubhouse used to be)

Total Acreage : 108.86 Acres


A normal course has 324 acres of tended turf?

Gotta get off the island more...
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Sean_A

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2011, 09:25:53 AM »
Jeepers Jeff, that was my internal response.  I am guessing Mike made a maths error and that he doesn't really believe most courses have 300 acres of tended turf. 

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Matt_Cohn

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 03:14:31 AM »
Twice as much rough as fairway? I wouldn't have predicted that...

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 10:51:35 AM »
Wehave 110 acres of tended turf, which is on the higher side of courses in Florida. We do not have any native areas, or waste bunkers,just a lot of rough.

Greens       4acres
Approaches 3 acres
Tees          3 acres
Fairways     35 acres
Rough        65 acres
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Brent Hutto

Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 10:57:39 AM »
Wehave 110 acres of tended turf, which is on the higher side of courses in Florida. We do not have any native areas, or waste bunkers,just a lot of rough.

Greens       4acres
Approaches 3 acres
Tees          3 acres
Fairways     35 acres
Rough        65 acres

So your course has 45 acres of short-mow and 65 acres of rough.

The numbers from Kiawah include the range and turf farm, etc. The equivalent numbers for the Ocean Course are around 35 acres of short-mow and 51 acres of rough. Basically 3/4 of grass area, comparing like for like.

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 11:40:20 AM »
Brent,
  You are correct-45 acres of short mow.
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Don_Mahaffey

Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 02:49:56 PM »
Wolf Point
90 acres tended turf
5 acres greens
7-9 acres rough (it changes based on season and rainfall)
The rest is mowed at fwy height, 1/2 inch, and includes fwys, tees, approaches, surrounds, collars...etc

Jerry Kluger

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Re: Amount of Tended Turf on The Ocean Course
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 12:23:20 PM »
Anthony: You just need more water holes like the rest of south Florida.

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