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Jason Topp

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In the Plainfield thread, I really enjoyed Joe Bauch's photographs of the course.  This one caught my attention:



I like the obviously artifical look of these types of features on old courses.  They give comfort that the stuff that does not look artificial is indeed natural (even if it is not).

I can only think of one modern design that I have played that attempted to emulate this look - River Hall in Florida by Love Design.  Are there other examples of modern architects attempting to recreate this type of look on new designs?  Have those efforts been successful?
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Jason Topp

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I also cannot tell whether or not the first picture shows the back of a green or a tee box.

Here is one that appears to be a green for sure:


Jeff_Mingay

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Jason,

I agree with you. And, I have two projects in the works right now - complete redos of existing courses - where I'm aiming for the old-style look (with a few twists) you're describing here.

Very cool stuff.
jeffmingay.com

Phil McDade

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Jason:

Black Creek, in Tennessee, by Brian Silva, from the GCA archives:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/courses-by-country/usa/black-creek/

Anthony Gray

Jason:

Black Creek, in Tennessee, by Brian Silva, from the GCA archives:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/courses-by-country/usa/black-creek/


  Its modern but it is a replica course.

  Anthony


Joel_Stewart

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I can only think of one modern design that I have played that attempted to emulate this look - River Hall in Florida by Love Design.  Are there other examples of modern architects attempting to recreate this type of look on new designs?  Have those efforts been successful?

To be clear, Love Design is David Love's company and not Bill Love.    I had to look at River Hall because Bill Love doesn't know the difference between CB MacDonald and MacDonalds hamburgers.

David Love seems to be doing some interesting work.  I would like to know who is on his team?

Tyler Kearns

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Joel,

I believe frequent GCA-poster Paul Cowley  is on DLIII's design team.

TK
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Bill_McBride

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Haven't been there, but I think Lester George restored some "dragon's teeth" mounds at the Old White. 

paul cowley

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Love Golf Design (Davis Love, Mark Love, Paul Cowley and Bob Spence), have done five courses that use CBM/Raynor features at times, often softened with a bit of Ross.

Forest Oaks CC - Greensboro NC
Kinderlou CC - Valdosta GA
Sanctuary Cove - Brunswick GA
Irish Creek - Kannapolis NC
River Hall - Ft Myers FL
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

Jason Topp

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Love Golf Design (Davis Love, Mark Love, Paul Cowley and Bob Spence), have done five courses that use CBM/Raynor features at times, often softened with a bit of Ross.

Forest Oaks CC - Greensboro NC
Kinderlou CC - Valdosta GA
Sanctuary Cove - Brunswick GA
Irish Creek - Kannapolis NC
River Hall - Ft Myers FL

Thanks Paul.  How has the work been received generally?  What are the plusses and minuses of the approach from a maintenence perspective?

paul cowley

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Jason

Since the majority of these courses have grass faced bunkers they are maintenance friendly and overall maintenance costs are not expensive compared to the ragged edges of others...actually a lot less as a whole... and that extends to the rest of the course as well. Very low costs generally when compared to most.
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca