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Ted Cahill

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Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« on: March 09, 2011, 10:50:19 PM »
I saw a report today that JN is working with FL Govenor Rick Scott to close down a number of public state parks and convert them to a RTJ Golf Trail named after JN.  This appears to be an idea of dubious merit. Closing state parks to build private golf courses in a golf saturated state in the middle of a severe recession in FL?  The report I read claimed Jack wants to build a course that would bring Florida it's first US Open and the JN Trail would help his legacy. If this folly actually came to fruition- it would certainly contribute to Jack's legacy, but not in the manner he envisions.   Anyone else have info on this report?
“Bandon Dunes is like Chamonix for skiers or the
North Shore of Oahu for surfers,” Rogers said. “It is
where those who really care end up.”

Mark Saltzman

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Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 11:05:25 PM »
Ted, are you sure they intend to build private courses and not public ones. Using public land to create private seems wrong and does not fit with the idea of the purpose of the RTJ trail.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 11:11:45 PM »
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Jim Colton

Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 12:17:19 AM »
How's that Bear's Trail doing in Tennessee?

Bill_McBride

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Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 10:47:34 AM »
Gov Scott has turned out to be a real beauty so far.  We have a $3.5B deficit in a state where the budget must be balanced, and he wants $2B in tax cuts to start with, leaving $5.5B required in tax cuts for education, Medicaid, etc.  Not the time to be building new golf courses.

Mike Hendren

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Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 12:29:51 PM »
How's that Bear's Trail doing in Tennessee?

Jim, the Bear Trace in Tennessee was poorly conceived.  With the exception of Harrison Bay north of Chattanooga they are located in relatively remote locales.  I can't fathom they've been profitable.  The course at Ross Creek Landing (way out in the boonies) was losing $500,000 annually when sold to the highest bidder in 2008 for $2.1 million.  Purportedly the state book at $2.5 million loss on the sale. 

Mike
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cary lichtenstein

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Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 01:20:02 PM »
Johnaton Dickinson State Park would be a great natural site for a sand based dunes type golf course. Wonder topography. For those of you who haven't played the bears club or the Ritz, both in Jupiter, Nicklaus has done an excellent job designing and building them.

I for one was an early basher of Nicklaus' difficult courses, but I think alot of his later work is greatly improved.
Live Jupiter, Fl, was  4 handicap, played top 100 US, top 75 World. Great memories, no longer play, 4 back surgeries. I don't miss a lot of things about golf, life is simpler with out it. I miss my 60 degree wedge shots, don't miss nasty weather, icing, back spasms. Last course I played was Augusta

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Jack Nicklaus Golf Trail in FL?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2011, 04:52:42 PM »
Legislation has been withdrawn because constituents wouldn't go for spending in this economy. Also someone named Arnold P didn't think that one designer should get all the work.
Local paper post at http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/403455/abel-harding/2011-03-11/john-thrasher-patrick-rooney-withdraw-golf-course