JNC:
You should see what Stephen Kay did with the 17th at Forsgate. Goes a good bit beyond what you see at Hackensack and I say that not as slight to the Oradell-based course - more of plug for what was done at the Monroe Twsp course.
Matt, I was unaware that Kay did the work at Forsgate.
A poor photograph from the tee:
The swale:
From behind the green with the pin set in the small thumbprint in the rear tier:
From the rear of the green with the deflection mounds at the front of the green barely visible:
I found Forsgate to be in fine shape in September - a true treat.
Mike