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Matthew Essig

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What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« on: February 27, 2013, 11:15:37 AM »
A) golf
B) golf course architecture

IMO:
a) Tiger Woods growing the game of golf
b) the back to basics attitude that is currently happening
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Mark Pearce

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 11:23:42 AM »
Quote from: Matthew Essig on February 27, 2013, 11:15:37 AM
A) golf
IMO:
a) Tiger Woods growing the game of golf
Really?  In the whole history of the game?  You must think Tiger has "grown" the game a whole lot more than I think he has.

As to the modern "back to basics" attitude, I wonder how that can be better than the dramatic changes in architecture around the turn of the 20th century.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 11:27:56 AM »
golf: getting away from the guttie feathery. OOPs
golf architecture: the brain trust that went into the creation of John Lows design principles
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 11:56:29 AM by GJ Bailey »
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"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

jeffwarne

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 11:36:02 AM »
Quote from: Matthew Essig on February 27, 2013, 11:15:37 AM
A) golf
B) golf course architecture

IMO:
a) Tiger Woods growing the game of golf
b) the back to basics attitude that is currently happening


If it hadn't been for "A" (although I don't credit Tiger with this much of this as it began in the 80's with the boom in the economy)
we wouldn't have to deal with "B"
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Scott Sander

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 11:53:38 AM »
Quote from: GJ Bailey on February 27, 2013, 11:27:56 AM
golf: getting away from the guttie
golf architecture: the brain trust that went into the creation of John Lows design principles


1) I was going to say getting away from the feathery in favor of the gutty.
2) Transatlantic travel and Colonial Wealth
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 11:55:28 AM »
Quote from: Scott Sander on February 27, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: GJ Bailey on February 27, 2013, 11:27:56 AM
golf: getting away from the guttie
golf architecture: the brain trust that went into the creation of John Lows design principles


1) I was going to say getting away from the feathery in favor of the gutty.
2) Transatlantic travel and Colonial Wealth

Sorry, brain cobwebs this morning. I meant to say feathery.
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David_Tepper

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2013, 11:56:29 AM »
a) Soft Spikes ;)
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Sam Morrow

Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 12:01:43 PM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on February 27, 2013, 11:56:29 AM
a) Soft Spikes ;)

You mean Truelinkswear.com
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Tom Kelly

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2013, 12:03:58 PM »
a) Old Tom Morris
b) Old Tom Morris
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Sam Morrow

Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2013, 12:05:30 PM »
Quote from: Tom Kelly on February 27, 2013, 12:03:58 PM
a) Old Tom Morris
b) Old Tom Morris

Between the NXT and golfnow.com he's a sellout.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2013, 12:06:44 PM »
Quote from: Tom Kelly on February 27, 2013, 12:03:58 PM
a) Old Tom Morris
b) Old Tom Morris

Kudos Tom Kelly. Especially since OTM stopped using the feathery.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2013, 12:30:47 PM »
Best thing to have happened in a), golf - quality water-proof shoes/clothing - now I can still play relatively comfortably in adverse weather conditions whilst keeping dry and reasonably warm.

Best thing to have happened in b), golf course architecture - the internet - now I can very easily find wonderful courses to play and areas to visit that previously I would never have found out about.

All the best.
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Sean_A

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2013, 12:40:00 PM »
I don't know about best thing to happen to golf, but for me, the best thing to happen in gca was the emergence of heathland golf. 

Ciao
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Tom Kelly

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2013, 12:51:17 PM »
Quote from: Sean Arble on February 27, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
I don't know about best thing to happen to golf, but for me, the best thing to happen in gca was the emergence of heathland golf. 

Ciao

Willie Park Jr crossed my mind and would probably be my second choice for gca after Old Tom.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2013, 12:53:35 PM by Tom Kelly »
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Rich Goodale

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2013, 12:52:30 PM »
a--television
b--the fact that no writer yet has come close to being able to express the fascination of golf course "architecture"
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Tim_Weiman

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2013, 01:35:33 PM »
Rich,

I agree with you that writing about golf architecture ain't easy, but why is that the best thing about golf architecture?
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Peter Pallotta

Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2013, 01:49:40 PM »
As per Sean's post: when golf moved in-land from the links, and the great old architects in the UK finally figured out how to make it work. It is the most important development in golf, if for no other reason than because there is a heck of a lot more "in land" available than "links land".  I'm a little sad to see that, still to this day, it is the sand-based sea-side courses (new and old) that still get an inordinate amount of attention and praise; while to me the real marvels are the quieter, plainer inland courses that have managed to serve their purpose for a hundred years.

Peter
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Rich Goodale

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2013, 03:22:56 PM »
Quote from: Tim_Weiman on February 27, 2013, 01:35:33 PM
Rich,

I agree with you that writing about golf architecture ain't easy, but why is that the best thing about golf architecture?

It assures me that the mysteries that bind us to the game will never be discovered, my friend.
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David Ober

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2013, 03:37:23 PM »
A) Nike and TaylorMade (tie)  ;D
B) Bandon (serious)
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V. Kmetz

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2013, 04:19:09 PM »
BEST THING?

a. in the history of Golf...CARTS (I know its controversial, but as to permitting play for more people on more types of property, it's is important as mass-produced golf balls)

b. in the history of Golf Course Architecture...the last 20 years' realization that Trees have a limited use in routing, design and can be deleterious to turf and enjoyment of play.

cheers

vk
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Pat Burke

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2013, 04:27:31 PM »
St Andrews 
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Tim Leahy

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2013, 05:04:46 PM »
a, Beverage carts
b. Pete Dye
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Mike_Trenham

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2013, 10:03:10 PM »
The mower
The mower
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Phil McDade

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Re: What is the best thing that has happened in the history of
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2013, 08:24:41 AM »
a) The Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers

b) The Old Course at St. Andrews
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