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mike_malone

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 I wonder who was his associte on this course.

 Is the course "Australian"?
AKA Mayday

Carl Rogers

Re: Two Aussies lead at Norman course in Texas--mean anything?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 03:48:07 PM »
Haven't the tv commentators related that Sergio consulted on the design?

This course seems a far cry different that the typical pro tour stop.  I am surprised that there has been no comment about that.  If the course wasn't so wet from the rain, a real ground game might be possible there.

Ben Sims

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Re: Two Aussies lead at Norman course in Texas--mean anything?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2010, 03:49:52 PM »
Mike,

Sergio was his player consultant, if that means anything.  As far as how "Aussie" this course is, I can't comment on that as I have never been to Australia.  But I walked holes 1-4, 7-9, 14-18 yesterday, and I wasn't very impressed.  Aesthetically, the edges of the bunkers and greens look like someone gave a rabid chimp a machete and asked them to make lines in the sod for fun.  They really went overboard in their attempt to be more natural.  I do like how deep the bunkers are, and about 2/3's of them were well positioned in my opinion.  The biggest consequence of the bunker depth and aesthetic so far seem to be a conditioning issue more than an architectural one; lots of sod separating in cracks due to the slopes and shape of the bunker walls.

 Most--if not all--of the green complexes are substantially raised above grade.  I would liked to have seen much more variety in that respect.  The internal contouring does  decent job of matching the external contouring of the green surrounds and fairways.  I was impressed with some of the creative pin placements available.   The double green at 2 and 7 is a desperate attempt at creativity.  It honestly has no business being a double green.  

In the end the course will do exactly what it was designed to do.  Which is a good thing for investors, the Tour, and those that wish to pay to play it.  It's definitely a cart course based on many of the ultra long transitions.  It is hard, requires long and straight tee shots, and aerial approaches to the raised greens.  Putting could be fun though.  Maybe I'm a architecture snob, I just wasn't all that impressed.  And all the folks in the gallery telling me how great it was was even more depressing.  Especially considering I was wearing my Old Macdonald hat that garnered ZERO questions. ;D
« Last Edit: May 16, 2010, 03:53:22 PM by Ben Sims »

mike_malone

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Re: Two Aussies lead at Norman course in Texas--mean anything?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 03:51:20 PM »
I heard the Sergio comment but I'm wondering who actually did the work.
AKA Mayday

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Two Aussies lead at Norman course in Texas--mean anything?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2010, 07:16:30 PM »
Mayday

Well we dont have a donut hole for starters - yet ;)

Nice to see Adam Scott in the mix again

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Two Aussies lead at Norman course in Texas--mean anything?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2010, 10:10:33 PM »
I was curious too for I always thought this was a Hills course. When was it built or the redo done for it does not look like the course I played.

Adam_Messix

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Re: Two Aussies lead at Norman course in Texas--mean anything?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 01:35:02 AM »
Has Bob Harrison done anything in the US?  He was an associate with Norman's but has since broken out on his own and his work comes highly recommended.

Richard Chamberlain

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Re: Two Aussies lead at Norman course in Texas--mean anything?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2010, 06:20:52 PM »
Not sure how "aussie" the future Sharkie course designs will be now.
Bob Harrison left a few months ago and now Harley kruse has gone. The Sydney office is closed. All work done from the States.