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Bill Shamleffer

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Unfortunately it is not available on the Web, but the most recent Golf Digest has a very interesting article by Lew Lapham about Cypress Point.  I have no idea per the accuracy of the history as presented in this article, but would still highly recommend the article as good reading no matter the accuracy of his memories.  If you do not subscribe, read the article at your local library, book store, or barber shop.

LORD OF PEBBLE BEACH
How one family bet big on the Monterey Peninsula
By Lewis H. Lapham
“The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet.”  Damon Runyon

Bob_Huntley

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Here is another good piece on area by Lewis Lapham/

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/my-monterey/1


Bob

jkinney

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Here is another good piece on area by Lewis Lapham/

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/my-monterey/1


Bob

Marvelous piece summing up three generations of a distinguished family of golfers in Monterey. Thanks for posting it, Bob.

John Mayhugh

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Bob,
A really enjoyable read. Thanks so much for sharing it.

Morse's description of the land used for Cypress Point as "desirable terrain" must surely be one of the biggest understatements in golf architecture history. I suspect I will remember that for a very long time.

I also enjoyed the grandfather's term "artful dodger," referring to the author's laying up on 16. In his case, the stakes and promise of future plays made that decision. I've heard of people doing the same even today, with nothing but a number to think of.  :D

 

Steve Pozaric

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Bill

Thanks for the heads up.  After reading the article to which Bob linked, I will have to seem it out.
Steve Pozaric

TEPaul

By the way, I think this man's father, also Lewis Lapham, was one of Mackenzie's primary "shot testers" as CPC was being developed and designed. It seems Mackenzie utilized Lewis Lapham's shot testing because he was extremely long.

Bill Shamleffer

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By the way, I think this man's father, also Lewis Lapham, was one of Mackenzie's primary "shot testers" as CPC was being developed and designed. It seems Mackenzie utilized Lewis Lapham's shot testing because he was extremely long.

TEPaul:

That very matter is discussed by Mr. Lapham in his Golf Digest article.


Bob Huntley:

Thank you for the link to the Travel and Leisure article.



On a side note, I highly recommend his new endeavour, Lapham's Quarterly.  Its approach is to pick a topic for each issue and then select about 100 short essays or excerpts covering the span of the history of the written word.  Each issue may also include a few original essays written for that publication.  Each essay is usuallys only 1 to 3 pages.  The article are timeless and offer wonderful examples of the different perspectives of the world through the centuries.  Some of the topics covered in the first three years have included: War, Money, Religion, Medicine, Travel, and Crime & Punishment.
http://www.laphamsquarterly.org/
“The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet.”  Damon Runyon

Bill Shamleffer

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Here is another good piece on area by Lewis Lapham/

http://www.travelandleisure.com/articles/my-monterey/1


Bob

I have now read the article above as linked by Mr. Huntley.  The article I referred to in this month's Golf Digest is just a slightly condensed version of this prior May 2000 article from Travel and Leisure magazine.
“The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but that's the way to bet.”  Damon Runyon

David Stamm

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I also enjoyed the grandfather's term "artful dodger," referring to the author's laying up on 16. In his case, the stakes and promise of future plays made that decision. I've heard of people doing the same even today, with nothing but a number to think of.  :D

 


Oh! Oh! Do I get a guess about to whom you are referring? ;) ;D
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Tom_Doak

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When I was in college I wrote to Frank Hannigan asking about people who had first-hand experience with Macdonald, MacKenzie, Tillinghast et al., and he referred me to Lewis Lapham Sr. and gave me his address.  So I wrote Mr. Lapham a note and received a long handwritten reply about his experience hitting balls for MacKenzie.

I had no idea at the time who Mr. Lapham was, besides a former Yale golfer and the son of one of Cypress Point's founders.  It must have been a very special experience for him.

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 10:37:25 PM »
Thanks to all on this topic.

John Mayhugh

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 05:04:10 AM »
I also enjoyed the grandfather's term "artful dodger," referring to the author's laying up on 16. In his case, the stakes and promise of future plays made that decision. I've heard of people doing the same even today, with nothing but a number to think of.  :D 
Oh! Oh! Do I get a guess about to whom you are referring? ;) ;D

You can probably come up with more than one.

TEPaul

Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2010, 07:55:34 AM »
Even though Lewis Lapham seems to be a native of San Francisco, it wouldn't surprise me if he was also a part time New Yorker. I think I remember him in the old days around Piping Rock. There were a well known group of them including the Bostwick brothers, Woody Millen, Robin Geddes, David Kirkland et al and they were all good athletes in a number of sports. Lewis Lapham looks familiar.

Adam Clayman

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2010, 10:04:44 AM »
Sir Boab,
 Thanks for that. Having lived there for 5 years, I found most of the history very interesting. The descendants of the poorer inhabitants, that Stevenson remarked would be crowded out, were mostly Latin, Italian and Portugue Fisherman, whose offspring I met, relishing in their accounts of the past.

Interesting points for further discussion in Mr. Lapham's article were;

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The terms of the bet having been settled somewhere in the vicinity of Gilroy, my father and grandfather spent the next two hours in the car remembering friends or acquaintances who had come to grief in one or another of the cul-de-sacs at Cypress Point.

The "cul-de-sacs", Is that a description of Mackenzie's bunker bays?

 
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Most of the stories I had heard before, not once but often, and quite a few of them I had by heart, like the Shakespearean speeches that I was obliged to memorize once a week at school: my uncle Roger at the age of fourteen, needing nine strokes to cross the dune at the eighth hole; the white-flanneled Walter Hagen falling afoul of the ice plant behind the thirteenth green;

Only one issue in Mr. Lapham's article I would question.

Ice plant was likely not present when Mr/ Hagen played there. Was it? It's indigenous to Africa and was introduced to stabilize the dunes at Fort Ord. Depending on when the Army did that, would confirm.  

He never mentioned Steinbeck, especially since his writing style is similar.

Great read, though.



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"It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing your whole life." - Mickey Mantle

Tom_Doak

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2010, 11:20:36 AM »
Tom P:

Not too surprising if Lewis Lapham was around Piping Rock.  At various times in his career he was the president of the Grace Line shipping company and the Bankers Trust Co.  Sounds like a Piping Rock guy to me.

Peter Pallotta

Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2010, 11:40:11 AM »
Yes, thanks gents.

A non sequitor (?)occurs to me:

George Will is baseball like Lewis Lapham is golf.

jkinney

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2010, 07:42:01 PM »
Even though Lewis Lapham seems to be a native of San Francisco, it wouldn't surprise me if he was also a part time New Yorker. I think I remember him in the old days around Piping Rock. There were a well known group of them including the Bostwick brothers, Woody Millen, Robin Geddes, David Kirkland et al and they were all good athletes in a number of sports. Lewis Lapham looks familiar.

Lew Lapham was Yale '56, which puts him in the same age group with Pete Bostwick et al. Never have met him myself, but he lives in Manhattan and is well respected in literary circles. He certainly writes with great style.

Mike Demetriou

Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2010, 07:51:03 PM »
Are we talking about the Editor of Harper's, Lapham? Is this the samer person?

Chris Shaida

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2010, 08:06:03 PM »
Are we talking about the Editor of Harper's, Lapham? Is this the samer person?

Yes, same person though he is no longer the active Editor (I think he is Editor Emeritus or something).  Fantastic writer.  His Editor's note was always for me one of the best written, most interesting periodical pieces for me each month.

Mike Demetriou

Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2010, 08:39:39 PM »
Agreed. Yes, Editor at Large, I think.  I no longer have time for Harper's, but I wish I did.

Phil_the_Author

Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2010, 06:37:00 PM »
His Grandfather, Roger Lapham, was the first president of Cypress Point and personally awarded the design contract to Mackenzie & Hunter. In addition, he was one of the major persons at the San Francisco Golf Club and is the person who brought Tilly out there. Among the times they met included the 1916 U.S. Amateur at Merion in which Roger Lapham was a competitor.

One of the things the article doesn't mention is that his grand-father was a war hero in WWI. He was a lieutenanat in a New York unit and several of his men got trapped behind enemy lines. Lapham went back to rescue them and was severely wounded by mustard gas and almost lost his sight. He was released from duty because of that.

He would serve as both President of the California Golf Association and was named the first member of the USGA's executive committee from the West in the 1920's. For anyone who will be at Pebble for the Open, you may wander through and around the Lodge buildings. If you do, you may notice that one of them is named the "Lapham" building after his grandfather.

The article actually could have also mentioned his great-grandfather and grand-uncle, also fine players who were involved in the growth of golf in the Northern California region.
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Mike Demetriou

Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2010, 09:14:37 PM »
Philip, thank you for the info, absolutely fascinating. 

Bill_McBride

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 12:34:11 PM »
By the way, I think this man's father, also Lewis Lapham, was one of Mackenzie's primary "shot testers" as CPC was being developed and designed. It seems Mackenzie utilized Lewis Lapham's shot testing because he was extremely long.

If I recall correctly, he drove the ninth green and pissed somebody off, forget who.

Tyler Kearns

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Re: Cypress Point/Pebble Beach article by Lewis Lapham in Golf Digest
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 02:22:52 PM »
I was watching an interview of Lewis Lapham a while back and was struck (as was he) by the 1st question he was asked when he interviewed for a position with the CIA, "If your standing on the 13th tee at the National Golf Links in Southampton, what club do you hit?". This was the Cold War era, and social standing was a pre-requisite for such an employ? The other two questions were equally outrageous!

www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_Hour/Full_Episodes/Season_5/ID=1238011710

TK