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Doug Sobieski

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #75 on: October 18, 2008, 01:13:37 PM »
West Palm Beach Country Club still opens with back to back reachable par 5's. Very good from a scoring perspective, not so great from a pace of play perspective.

Mike_Cirba

Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #76 on: October 18, 2008, 04:12:33 PM »
Tom Doak already mentioned the 3 in a row at Inwood, but Polo Trace in south Florida also has 3 in a row...I believe they are holes 8, 9, & 10 by architect Karl Litten.

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2010, 12:10:56 AM »
Glen Garden in Ft. Worth. Found out about it reading Dan Jenkins' 'steer job' book which has a bunch of arcitectural references.
1) Back nine: 4 4 5 5 3 3 4 3 3.      Thats a lot of back to back.
2) 37-34+71 Built in 1912 by Bredemus
3) More than one World Golf Hall of Fame members learned their games here (Hogan, Nelson, S Palmer
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Jim Nugent

Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2010, 01:32:41 AM »
What is this course's name?
1) Back nine: 4 4 5 5 3 3 4 3 3.      Thats a lot of back to back.
2) 37-34+71 Built in 1912
3) More than one World Golf Hall of Fame members learned their games here
4) Alliterative name.

Lulu?

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2010, 02:24:06 AM »
What is this course's name?
1) Back nine: 4 4 5 5 3 3 4 3 3.      Thats a lot of back to back.
2) 37-34+71 Built in 1912
3) More than one World Golf Hall of Fame members learned their games here
4) Alliterative name.

Lulu?

Jim,
No, not in the (greater) Philadelphia area. That is a great allterative tho


Modify: Glen Garden in Ft Worth Texas. Bredemus.  Hogan/Nelson/S Palmer. Found out while reading Dan Jenkins'  ' steer job.'
« Last Edit: September 07, 2010, 01:56:23 PM by Pete_Pittock »

Jim Nugent

Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2010, 02:48:47 AM »
Pete, interesting that Lulu was built in 1912, along with your mystery course. 

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #81 on: September 07, 2010, 02:50:22 AM »
The 13th, 14th and 15th at Nairn & Portnoo GC (Dongeal, Ireland) are all par 5s.

Martin Toal

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2010, 03:17:53 AM »
Silloth on Solway has two back to back on the back nine. They play end to end of each other, so opposing wind conditions apply.

The 13th is a hole which plays towards rising land, and a decent tee shot comes near the bottom of the hill.The second is played onto higher ground along a semi hogs back fairway.

The 14th is played into open ground, and the second them is played over a large mound. going for it in 2 will be blind, but the green is fairly generous.

http://www.sillothgolfclub.co.uk/Course/Hole-By-Hole.aspx?page=5

Mark Pearce

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2010, 03:41:18 AM »
I can't believe I posted on this thread pointing out that Balcomie has back to back (but not back to back to back) par 3s but didn't point out that it also has back to back par 5s.  Next to the back to back par 3s.  The back 9 runs 4-5-5-3-3-4-3-4-3.  Before 1994 it ran 3-5-5-3-3-4-3-4-3.
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Ross Tuddenham

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #84 on: September 07, 2010, 04:34:23 AM »
The course I play, Braid Hills in Edinburgh, has back to back par fives. The 10th at  549 yards and the 11th at 522 yards. Although due to the prevailing wind I often think the 11th plays like more of a long par 4.  Both play in the same direction.

Another course in the Edinburgh area that has back to back par 5’s is Kings acre, where holes 2 and 3 are par 5’s.  One a short par 5 of 450, usually into a strong wind and the other running back in the opposite direction at 554 yards.

With regards to the braids I often think it would be better if the longer holes were more spread throughout the routing.  As most of the par 4’s are on the short side, bar hole 5 (518 yards) and Hole 6 (430 yards all the way up hill into the wind).  Actually hole 6 normally plays longer than hole 5.  As five is downhill and downwind and can be as little as driver wedge in the right conditions.

So this means that the long holes come in two little bunches meaning you play long stretches of shorter holes wanting to play something a little longer, to add to the verity of shots required.  Would having them apart improve this? Although if these are the holes that were the best fit for the land it would not however be preferable to make contrived holes elsewhere to please the feeling the longer holes should have been more separated in the routing.

Mike Tanner

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #85 on: September 07, 2010, 02:13:53 PM »
The 10th and 11th at Ingleside Resort (not much of a resort anymore, but an interesting course) in Staunton, Virginia. Architect Fred Findlay placed them parallel to each other so they play in opposite directions while crossing the same shallow valley. Both play downhill from the tees and then back uphill to the greens. The difference between them is the placement of the greens; #10 features a skyline green, while the putting surface of the 11th green is more visible for approach shots.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #86 on: September 07, 2010, 02:59:26 PM »
Spring Brook, outside of Morristown, NJ has back to back to back par 3's.

I'm surprised noone mentioned Seminole with back to back par 5's, # 14 and # 15.

goldj

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #87 on: September 07, 2010, 03:14:20 PM »
Preakness Hills had back to back par 5's, #'s 9 & 10.

But, which course has back to back to back par 3's ?

Quaker Ridge has back to back par 3's.  Number 9 and 10.

And Inwood had 3 par 5's in a row.  Holes 2,3, and 4. 

Michael Underwood

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2010, 03:40:00 PM »
Also speaking of Tom Doak the 17th & 18th at The Rawls Course at Texas Tech University are consecutive par fives.  By the way the Rawls Course is a wonderful course and is in excellent condition with bermuda fairways and bent grass greens.  This course plays very firm and fast and is well worth checking out if you are ever close to Lubbock, Texas.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #89 on: September 08, 2010, 02:28:59 AM »
Preakness Hills had back to back par 5's, #'s 9 & 10.

But, which course has back to back to back par 3's ?

Quaker Ridge has back to back par 3's.  Number 9 and 10.

GoldJ,

Not back to back par 3's, but, back to back to back par 3's, three in a row.
Lots of courses have two in a row.


And Inwood had 3 par 5's in a row.  Holes 2,3, and 4. 

Kevin Pallier

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #90 on: September 08, 2010, 05:13:27 AM »
Royal Queensland has B2B P5's if you play the B9 first  :D

Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #91 on: September 08, 2010, 06:00:21 AM »
Lundsbrunn Golfklubb in Sweden also has 3 consecutive par 5s; the 9th, 10th and 11th.

I can't remember exactly, but didn't the old Enniscrone layout start with 3 par 5s, or was it 3 in the first 4 holes?

Mike_Clayton

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2010, 06:03:00 AM »
Kevin,

Three in four holes if you play the back nine first.
There is now a back tee at the 5th hole - I think the hole is about 480m from back there- so it can be played as a four from the front (450 m aprox) tee or a five from the back. That would make back to nack fives at 5 and 6.
Last time I was there were were talking about the possibility of adding a bunker about 50m short of the green that would make for a really intersting long second for the par five.

Royal Waterloo in Belgium finishes with three par fives.

Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #93 on: September 08, 2010, 06:15:14 AM »
Wentworth (not my favourite course by any means) finishes with two par 5s.

As does Connemara Golf Club (Ballyconeelly)...

17 plays fairly non-descript for the first 425 yards before rising steeply to a high level plateau green cut out of the hillside. Typical Hackett style.

18 plays back in the opposite direction and has much more character, particularly around the undulating green site which is slightly elevated and has a burn running across the fairway about 50 yards before it. Good finishing hole.

There's an excellent par-5 at 14 as well...

scott anderson

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #94 on: September 08, 2010, 06:47:01 AM »
Minnesota's oldest course theTown and Country Club est. 1888, finishes with three straight par fives followed by the par three eighteenth.  A great and unique finish to a fun old course.

Roger Wolfe

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #95 on: September 08, 2010, 09:47:14 AM »
Oakland Golf Club in Oakland, MD

#4 and #5

Bill_McBride

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #96 on: September 08, 2010, 10:14:30 AM »
North Berwick West Links -- the 3 shotters are holes 8, 9 and 11 (and 10 is a par 3).

Greg, for visitors playing the yellow tees, #8 is a 460 yard par 4.   ::)  It's a much better hole as a 500 yard par 5 from the medal tee, but I've never been allowed back there.

Dave Herrick

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Re: Back-to-Back Par 5s
« Reply #97 on: September 08, 2010, 10:46:17 AM »
Depending on the tee-box chosen Dunbar can be considered to begin with two par fives.