Greens that are running at 10 to 10.5 in my mind are perfect. If you are above the hole you need to be careful if your greens have some slope. You don’t run the risk of losing them. I’ve played some tournaments where the greens were built when the stimp would have been 8. When they get to 12 they become a joke. Just stupid.
What membership would put up with greens that are causing you to shoot 10 shots higher than they would normally shot on the same course. For the record, I miss Pat Mucci.
I miss him too.
What many people don't understand about very fast (and firm -- it's the combo that's a killer) greens is that it's not so much the putting, it's on the approach and short game where many golfers really throw away strokes in those conditions.
I understand that too David. But again who would want to play those conditions every day.