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Scott Warren

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Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« on: July 18, 2012, 07:57:39 PM »
When you play The Berkshire and start your day on the Red, you'll enjoy a great, long lunch before tackling the Blue, which starts with an imposing long par three over a sea of heather.

Long iron or hybrid over heather, belly full of roast meat and treacle pudding, head full of red wine and kummel -- there's a shot I'd like to see the pros play! (I suspect Darren Clarke might handle it better than, say, Rickie Fowler ;D)

What is yours?

Jay Flemma

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 08:02:08 PM »
Never mind the pros - my fave is standing on that great 1st tee at National with a belly full of chowder and lobster!
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 08:17:48 PM »
Ross famously said that preparation of bunkers for a tournament should be to have a cavalry troop ride through them. Now that would create some shots I would like to see the pros play. I would settle for having them play from footprints in the unmaintained bunkers at Chambers Bay along for instance the 7th fairway. Unfortunately there will be an army of workers there to make everything smooth and tidy. Only hacks like Kalen and I have to play from such situations.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Matthew Runde

Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 09:10:58 PM »
If I remember correctly, Thomas wrote that the architect should never create a situation where the slope of the fairway, the prevailing wind, and the slope of the green all conspire to make a shot nearly impossible.

I'd like to see the pros play such a shot.

Patrick_Mucci

Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 09:17:36 PM »
Scott,

All of the shots at Shinnecock when a two club, gusting wind is blowing........ From the north  ;D

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 09:18:58 PM »
I like to see them play in the wind(3plus club) and not bitch. That will happen this week.

Dan King

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 09:38:19 PM »
I'd like to see them face the toughest shot ever:
"The hardest shot in golf is a mashie at 90 yards from the green, where the ball has to be played against an oak tree, bounces back into a sandtrap, hits a stone, bounces on the green and then rolls into the cup. That shot is so difficult I have made it only once."
 --Zeppo Marx

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Dan King
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Mark_F

Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 11:59:30 PM »
I don't know about the pros, but this is apparently what you face if you dare diss the donald.


David_Elvins

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 12:03:51 AM »
I would like to see what they would score if they had to take 10 photos of the golf course between each shot. 
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Alex Miller

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 01:21:53 AM »
#11 at LACC north

For that matter, I'd like to see the pros there in a tournament. A U.S. Open? I can dream...

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 07:50:16 AM »
Love to see Shinney 7 played as the way a Redan was meant to be played, rather than cut in against the slope.  Always like the shots from the road hole bunker and putts from the valley of sin/;
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

jeffwarne

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 08:49:08 AM »
a driver at Lytham........for something other than measuring relief....
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Chris_Hufnagel

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 01:48:20 PM »
Here are a couple from Kingsley - I have no doubt the pros could pull them off exquisitely day after day, but it would be fun to watch them hit the shots I struggle with each time around...

#9
From above the hole, just about to any pin - but the front left pin (from above, left of the green) would be probably the best.  I would be fascinated to not only see them hit the shot, but to know their thought process behind the shot.  I believe there are just some places you can't get close to the hole if you are above it - so where would they play to for their next shot?  I would imagine most could still get out in many cases with a 3 and at worst a 4 - for me I am just trying to post a score (when in medal play) before ESC takes over.

#15
Second shot into the green from where my tee shot would usually leave them - about 190-205 yards out and needing to play some sort of high fade (RH) into the green.  I would love to just sit on the hill behind the green and watch them hit that shot all day.  In some cases I would expect it could be as little as a 7 iron for some professionals – but it would still be fun to see them hit that small target that I rarely (if ever) hit in regulation.

I know they play a game I am not familiar with - but it would be fun to see them play a course I am very familiar with...

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 08:58:06 PM »
Play on the 1980-era Brighton Park muni golf course in Tonawanda NY.  Green speeds of 8, bowling pin tee markers, usually soggy from rain, and really slow rounds.  Even worse, it's one of William Harries' worst designs.

PS - It was an amazingly fun time in my life due to playing there 6 days a week :)

Pat Burke

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 02:11:14 AM »
I'd like to see these pros do flaming grain alcohol shots like my idiot pals and I used to do in college.

JD Hall of Fame

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2012, 07:44:40 AM »
I'd like to see them play the 13th here at Pawleys Plantation and see how the scoring spread and average compares to the 17th at TPC Sawgrass during the Players Championship.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2012, 01:14:24 PM »
Talk about your Double Entendre thread... and then some, I can think of some additional meanings that haven't surfaced yet.   ;)


As for the real intent of this thread (I think), I'd like to see pros trying to hit to greens that slope from front to back, with a tail wind.  I guess if we build a "pro-only" course it could feature at least a handful of greens like this to go along with the prevailing wind.

JNC Lyon

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2012, 05:39:51 PM »
A shot from the fairway in Upstate New York in December...WITHOUT TOUCHING THE BALL.
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

Pat Burke

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2012, 04:13:05 PM »
I'd like to see these pros do flaming grain alcohol shots like my idiot pals and I used to do in college.

JD Hall of Fame

Pat, did that "JD" mean Juvenile Delinquent, or John Daly ... or both?

Awww  DS, he's no longer juvenile eligible....chronologically

Carl Rogers

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2012, 07:47:59 AM »
The tee shot at Lytham no. 18 seems to offer the pro's the choice of hit an accurate driver for a very short approach or lay back avoid the bunkers for a longer approach.  ie a medium to shortish par 4 with the aggressive to lay back tee option .... though it does seem that Lytham has that option on many holes.  If the fairway bunkering was slightly less penal, the lay up tee shot would be less prevalent.

The problem for Adam Scott is that he is too long.  He just should have hit the driver over everything.
I decline to accept the end of man. ... William Faulkner

Jason Topp

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Re: Shots you'd like to see the pros face
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 02:55:58 PM »
I would like to see them putt on greens that stimp at 6.

I would like to see a hit the range picker contest.

I would like to see them play Lincoln Park during SF City Championship conditions.

I would like to see an alternate shot tournament.

Tony Ristola

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2012, 04:08:45 AM »
Calvin Peete wasn't long by Tour standards when he played, but he hit a shot to the 18th of a major that sticks out in my memory (cannot remember the course or whether it was the US Open or PGA); he threaded it between two bunkers, bounced it onto the green.

I'd love to see pro's today have to hit similar shots into par-4's... once in a while in docile condictions. The last fairway wood to a green in a major I recall (after a good drive too) was probably Cory Pavin's 4-wood at Shinnicock's 18th.

As a side note... I wonder... if Calvin Peete had the long putter would he have won a major or majors? There sure were few guys out there that had better ball control... if any.



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