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JohnV

Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« on: July 13, 2007, 10:41:35 AM »
In this week's GCSAA Divot Mix ( http://www.gcsaa.org/newsweekly/2007/july/2/divmix.asp ) they told of a golf's newest golf trail.

The Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail in Vietnam ( http://www.hochiminhgolftrail.com/ )

As it is described on their website:

The man, the trail, the golf adventure of a lifetime.

Check out the map on their home page.

There are 7 courses on the Trail.

Garland Bayley

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Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2007, 10:52:49 AM »
A golf trail made for Jane Fonda!  ;D What a deal!
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Guy Nicholson

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Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2007, 02:42:49 PM »
I love how the map shows it cutting through Laos and Cambodia. I wonder if transport is by B-52?

 :P

Mike_Cirba

Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2007, 02:54:40 PM »
For communists, they sure seem to be flocking to an imperialistic, hedgemonic game.  ;)

Jim Nugent

Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2007, 03:19:26 PM »
Would not surprise me if Ho was as accomplished a golfer as Kim of Korea.  (Kim's best round for a full-size 18 hole course is 32, according to N. Korean news media.)  The matches those two unrivaled immortals could have had against each other stagger the imagination.  

JohnV

Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2007, 03:44:36 PM »
I don't know if Ho played, but this quote is on the site:

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MORE GOLF, PLEASE: In the early 1990s, just before he decreed that there should be at least 10 golf courses in the north of Vietnam, Prime Minister Vo Van Kiet said, “I go to visit other countries, and I get asked out to play golf. But I must say, ‘No thank you, I’m sorry, but I don’t know how to play.’ ”

Phil Benedict

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Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2007, 04:53:57 PM »
Golf and the smell of napalm in the morning.  

Sam Morrow

Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2007, 05:18:18 PM »
I have to be honest, that's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Gary Daughters

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Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2007, 06:10:11 PM »
Years back I dated a sports writer who had taken a golf-related trip to China, where she found herself teeing it up with reformist President Zhang Zemin.  That was obviously pretty cool, but the highlight of the trip occured at the Great Wall.

My friend carried a 9-iron with her.  If I recall correctly, Zhang was there, too.  At some point they came upon some peasants who were working in a field.  As recounted by my friend in a very moving dispatch, she handed the club to one of the peasants.

And what did he do?

He used it as a hoe.

Sadly, Zhang was purged during Tiananmen.  He may have since died.

« Last Edit: July 13, 2007, 06:18:09 PM by Gary Daughters »
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Guy Nicholson

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Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2007, 06:57:12 PM »
Jiang was president until 2003. He stepped down and is still alive. You may be thinking of Zhao Ziyang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Zemin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhao_Ziyang

Gary Daughters

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Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2007, 07:00:11 PM »
Zhao Ziyang is correct.

Thanks

Zhang was definitely a baddie.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2007, 07:49:54 AM »
How soon we forget.

My roommate, Jim Egan, a Marine, has been listed as MIA in Vietnam for 40 years.

The VC & NVA didn't take field prisoners, they executed them.

Something the press conveniently overlooked and never reported, even to this day.

Perhaps some good will come of it, if a dozer constructing these golf courses uncovers the remains of servicemen executed in the field and listed as MIA.

Then, there families could finally have closure.

Mike_Duffy

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Re:Ho Chi Minh Golf Trail
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2007, 09:48:18 PM »
Golf is a fairly recent "novelty" sport in Vietnam. Hanoi's first course, about an hours' drive north-west from the capital, was laid out by some foreign nationals working there about 20 years ago.

Recently, the Melbourne based firm, Pacific Golf Design, designed and constructed a second 18 on some nice undulating land adjacent to the very ordinary original 18.

At the present time there are about 8 courses planned for North Vietnam, many of them pencilled in along the road to the world heritage listed Halong Bay.

In central Vietnam, there is already a number of good courses, notably two designed by Nick Faldo.

More courses are in the planning stages for the area surrounded by Hoi An and Danang, and farther south along the coast at Nha Trang, and lastly in the far south, not far from the Mekong Delta at Vung Tau.

Most Vietnamese don't play golf, as the country is still in recovery mode from the long occupation by the French followed by 16 years of the "American War" as it is referred to here in Vietnam.

The courses are generally populated by visiting Australians, Japanese and lately, a good number of Taiwanese, Singaporeans and Malaysians.

Vietnam is a country of puzzling contrasts. In the south there is a full-blown capitalist economy, whilst in the communist dominated North, the guiding hand of the socialists is evident everywhere.

Whenever the economy of the south becomes too full on, the interventionist hands of the government in Hanoi always comes into play.

Hence I say "on the drawing boards" when referring to planned developments, as the only certainty in Vietnam is uncertainty.

For those of you who might venture this way (as unlikely as it would be!) I would advise you to bring your clubs, as you will not be disappointed.

And don't let the signs at the entrance to the clubs put you off which generally read: "18 holes: 970,000 dn".

Currently $US1 buys 16,117 Vietnamese dong, therefore your green fee is a bargain $US60, which includes a compulsotry caddy and unfortunately - an equally compulsory cart.