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Ran Morrissett

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... under the Feature Interview section and Architecture Timeline.

When Mike Keiser built the first course at Bandon, there were no guarantees as to how it would be received. It was remote, not built by a name architect, the effective playing season was an unknown, etc. Now seven years on and with two more world class courses having been opened in addition to the original course, the whole idea seems to have been a no brainer, which it most certainly was not.

Steve Goodwin's just released book entitled Dream Golf: The Making of Bandon Dunes takes you inside the entire decision/development process.

Steve had complete access to all the key players and that provides the book its great insight, with some amazing quotes to boot. Goodwin perfectly captures the harsh skepticism that Keiser faced from his business partners. Keiser's original vision of having a wind swept place open to all golfers where they carry their bag and enjoy the game alone in nature had little precedent in the United States and it took great conviction on his part to hold true to that uncluttered goal.

One example of Steve's unfettered access to everyone appears in the form of four highly (!) interesting graphics that appear within this Feature Interview - two early Kidd routings, a 12 hole routing of PacDunes, and Keiser's own hole entry in Golf Digest's design contest. Take Kidd's earliest routing and look at the 2nd hole in the upper right hand corner where there are two of the largest central bunkers that I've ever seen. Yes, Kidd's final routing obviously took greater advantage of the cliff line but this early routing shows him to be an architect of bold and unique ideas, a talent that Keiser recognized in him long before the rest of us. Tom Doak's early routing shows many of the finest final holes at PacDunes including my favourite three hole stretch, the 6th through the 8th. Keiser's designed hole shows his love and knowledge of Macdonald/Raynor, capped off by its 300' x 35' foot (!!) green ala some of Macdonald/Raynor's grandest greens like the 11th at The Creek and the 9th at Yale.

Things done for the right reason have a way of working out for the best. That is certainly the case with Bandon Dunes and it is certainly going to be the case with Steve and his new book. No doubt it will sell many thousands more copies than the typical golf architecture book. The story of Bandon Dunes is a much bigger story than just architecture and golf (if you can believe that such a thing exists 8)) and thus it will find a much bigger audience, none of whom will be disappointed in reading about this inspiring story of doing something right.  

Cheers,
« Last Edit: May 29, 2006, 04:58:54 PM by Ran Morrissett »

TEPaul

Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 06:50:48 PM »
This thread has been on here for two and a half hours and noone's responded??

Thank you Ran! Thank you, thank you, thank you---thank you very much.

If the rest of you 1499 birds don't thank Ran Morrissett by the end of the day you are risking getting shitcanned from this webstie by midnight.

Where are your manners?

These interviews are the heart and soul of this website. OOOPs, maybe Ran's course reviews are the heart and soul of the website but the interviews are wonderful.

My old friend Ron Forse has asked me to provide a few questions for his interview on here and I have some really fascinating, wonderful, thoughtful and scintillating questions prepared for him.

There's only one I'm presently toying with dropping.

It's;

Ran Morrissett:
"Ron, I've heard your secret ambition when you were a boy was to be a tractor repairman in New Holland, Pennsylvania. Is that true?"

What do you guys think? Should I leave that one in there or not?
« Last Edit: May 29, 2006, 06:53:22 PM by TEPaul »

Mark_F

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 08:03:20 PM »
Tom Paul,

It sounds like a fantastic book, and I can't wait to get my hands on a copy.

Until then, the interview both suffices, but also whet's the appetite for more.

How's that?

And I do mean it. :)

Jason Topp

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2006, 11:59:36 PM »
Terrific book.  It really demonstrates that most of what we talk about here is a very small tip of a very large iceberg.  

A real interesting description of a local golfer who likes to play the par threes with bunt driver.

It also helps me to clarify what I care about and do not care about at a golf course.  As Keiser makes decisions about what he will and what he will not emphasize in marketing the place, it makes clear both what I like about the game and why one does not see more of it.  

Ben Cowan-Dewar

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 08:34:04 AM »
I think that this is really monumental Ran. The text is very interesting and certainly makes reading the book mandatory, but the ability for GolfClubAtlas to get these images shows its strength. Thank you on both counts.

tlavin

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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2006, 09:07:30 AM »
I'm almost finished with the book and I will state the obvious: anybody who cares a whit about golf course architecture has to read this book.  It is a compelling read about a man with passion, persistence and vision.  I have the privilege of knowing Mike Keiser and I can say without question that Stephen Goodwin has accurately profiled this intriguing and ambitious ambassador of "dream golf".  He dreamed it; we get to play it.  Forever.

PThomas

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2006, 06:24:30 PM »
Ran - I posted a thread about 10 days ago praising the book...just back from a golf trip ;D and look forward to reading the interview this weekend

thanks to you and Steve!
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Stan Dodd

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2006, 06:48:16 PM »
Read both the book and the interview.  Great reads.  Gives me, the layman, a good look at the complexity of the development of golf courses.  Enjoyed the read!

Tom_Doak

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2006, 06:56:47 PM »
Just one caveat:  the "early routing" of Pacific Dunes depicted in the article is just a map we drew of the 12 holes which were completed in the spring of 2000 for people who were going to play them that fall.  We already knew where the rest of the holes were going by then, we just hadn't built them yet.

I don't think I gave Stephen Goodwin my early routing for the course, where the third green site was not yet found and the fourth hole was played backwards.  That was before the gorse was all cleared away by the fire and we couldn't see what we had to work with by #4 tee.

Dan Kelly

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2006, 08:36:54 PM »
Good interview. Thanks, Ran.

(Tom I -- Am I allowed to stay now?)
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Ian Andrew

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2006, 07:49:42 PM »
Great choice of interviews. I enjoyed the insight to Howard Mckee the most of all. I can't explain why but his role still seems underplayed to me.

The insight to the whole process from other sites to THAT site was also great too.

Thanks Ran, as always.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2006, 07:57:30 PM by Ian Andrew »

Mike Nuzzo

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2007, 12:59:23 AM »
After recently reading Dream Golf ... I have to report an egregious error....
In the book the crew gave a nickname to the Bandon construction manager:  Heat Miser.
Unfortunately the Heat miser is not a commercial as referenced in the book.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Miser

[Heat Miser]
I'm Mister Green Christmas
I'm Mister Sun
I'm Mister Heat Blister
I'm Mister Hundred and One
They call me Heat Miser,
What ever I touch
Starts to melt in my clutch
I'm too much!
[Chorus]
He's Mister Green Christmas
He's Mister Sun
He's Mister Heat Blister
He's Mister Hundred and One
[Heat Miser]
They call me Heat Miser,
What ever I touch
Starts to melt in my clutch
[Chorus]
He's too much!
[Heat Miser]
Thank you!
I never want to see a day
That's under sixty degrees
I'd rather have it eighty,
Ninety, one hundred degrees!
(spoken):Oh, some like it hot, but I like it really hot! Hee hee!
[Chorus]
He's Mister Green Christmas
He's Mister Sun
[Heat Miser]
Sing it!
[Chorus]
He's Mister Heat Blister
He's Mister Hundred and One
[Heat Miser]
They call me Heat Miser,
What ever I touch
Starts to melt in my clutch
I'm too much!
[All]
Too Much!


Otherwise it was a very good book.

Cheers
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Jeff_Mingay

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 08:27:48 AM »
Mike,

I read Dream Golf over the holidays. I thought it was excellent. As I say in another thread: a wonderful tale told by an entertaining writer.

I had a hard time putting the book down.

Hats off to Mr. Goodwin!
jeffmingay.com

Bill_McBride

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 04:01:34 PM »
I bought the book at the end of a trip to Bandon and read it on the plane flying home a week later.  It is a great book as it gets into the mind of Mike Keiser and how he saw that public access golf, walking only, could be so successful.  And it gives great insight into the golf architects, David Kidd and Tom Doak.  The details of the successes and frustrations in the field are very well laid out.  I'm ready to read it again.  I would like to see it updated after there is time for Bandon Trails' role at the resort to be more fully developed, and for Steve Goodwin to get more in depth on Coore and Crenshaw, to the extent that he did with Kidd and Doak.

Thanks for the super interview, Ran, and for those graphics.  Only at GolfClubAtlas.com!  8)

Robert Thompson

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 04:50:40 PM »
I've read the book and thoroughly enjoyed it. Every story is made intriguing by its cast, and this one has plenty, many of which I met when I wandered around a field this spring in the Canadian prairies with Mike, and Bill Coore. Steve has created a good read -- which an editor once told me was the highest accolade one writer can give another.
Terrorizing Toronto Since 1997

Read me at Canadiangolfer.com

Tom_Doak

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2007, 05:19:43 PM »
The one odd thing about the book is that Steve was only involved in the project during the time Bandon Trails was being built.  He hung out way more with Coore and Crenshaw than with me or David ... but the publisher believed that the real "story" was more about the first and second courses than #3.  

He could easily have made the book that much longer but I think it might have sounded like "more of the same" even though Bill and his guys have a different approach and deserve the same recognition.

Kalen Braley

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Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2007, 05:24:52 PM »
Ran,

Thanks for that post as well.  The book goes right to number 1 on my "next" list.

Yancey_Beamer

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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2007, 07:27:29 PM »
Excellent book.
I bought my copy in the Bandon golf shop and read it while I was there playing the courses.
The timing was perfect.

Kyle Harris

Re:May's Feature Interview with Steve Goodwin is posted...
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2007, 07:35:23 PM »
After recently reading Dream Golf ... I have to report an egregious error....
In the book the crew gave a nickname to the Bandon construction manager:  Heat Miser.
Unfortunately the Heat miser is not a commercial as referenced in the book.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Miser

[Heat Miser]
I'm Mister Green Christmas
I'm Mister Sun
I'm Mister Heat Blister
I'm Mister Hundred and One
They call me Heat Miser,
What ever I touch
Starts to melt in my clutch
I'm too much!
[Chorus]
He's Mister Green Christmas
He's Mister Sun
He's Mister Heat Blister
He's Mister Hundred and One
[Heat Miser]
They call me Heat Miser,
What ever I touch
Starts to melt in my clutch
[Chorus]
He's too much!
[Heat Miser]
Thank you!
I never want to see a day
That's under sixty degrees
I'd rather have it eighty,
Ninety, one hundred degrees!
(spoken):Oh, some like it hot, but I like it really hot! Hee hee!
[Chorus]
He's Mister Green Christmas
He's Mister Sun
[Heat Miser]
Sing it!
[Chorus]
He's Mister Heat Blister
He's Mister Hundred and One
[Heat Miser]
They call me Heat Miser,
What ever I touch
Starts to melt in my clutch
I'm too much!
[All]
Too Much!


Otherwise it was a very good book.

Cheers

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