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Noel Freeman

We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« on: December 12, 2006, 12:37:03 PM »
Got this from Tuco Ramriez.. A great pic of the Himalayas at St. Enodoc..Note the scale of the guy in the bunker.


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RSLivingston_III

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2006, 12:45:45 PM »
Those were the days!
I'd love to see something like that these days.
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RSLivingston_III

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2006, 03:42:45 PM »
Looks a bit too manicured......
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Garland Bayley

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 03:54:01 PM »
Looks a bit too manicured......

You're right. I would have thought St. Endoc would look a little scruffier.
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RSLivingston_III

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 04:05:20 PM »
He got a strike, now to set the hook!
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Mark_Fine

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 04:11:14 PM »
One of the "twenty most famous hazards" in the world - according to Fine and Richardson  ;D  The Himalayas bunker is talked about in our book and we include photos as well as a detailed sketch with dimensions, etc.  It is 70 feet to the top of the hill that the bunker sits in.  

RJ_Daley

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 04:47:30 PM »
Bring Tuco back! ;D 8)
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Scott Szabo

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 04:56:48 PM »
Mike,

You beat me to the punch.  Eerily reminiscent of the bunker on #4 at Sand Hills, isn't it?  Any chance that's where C&C got their inspiration?
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JESII

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 08:34:56 PM »
Mike,

You beat me to the punch.  Eerily reminiscent of the bunker on #4 at Sand Hills, isn't it?  Any chance that's where C&C got their inspiration?

Any chance it's not?

Awesome photos!

Mark Fine...you sure about that 70 foot height?

Bill Gayne

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2006, 08:43:13 PM »
Machrihanish has some great pictures of the past with extreme bunkering.

http://www.machgolf.com/machrihanish-past.php

Mark_Fine

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 08:56:37 PM »
Jim,
If you look through our book, you will see that each of the 20 famous hazards are detailed with dimensions.  All these dimensions came from our own measurements and/or a combination of those from the course officials/grounds keepers, etc.  Forrest can chime in but if I remember correctly, the measurements for St. Enodoc's bunker came from the club.  

I should add the we felt this information would be valuable for people who want to really put into perspective the size and scope of these famous hazards.  We were pretty proud of this section of the book.  
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2006, 10:10:29 PM »
Mark, I apologize for my ignorance but what is the name of your book?  thanks.
Found it on google.
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paul cowley

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2006, 10:39:26 PM »
Love Golf Design is currently building a green that if one misses by 5 yds to the right they enter a 50 acre+ bunker that drops 60' immediately and rolls about 100 yds away....all to be in play.
It makes St Enodoc's seem smaller than a pot and truly has to be seen to be believed. [might make Marks and Forrests Largest Sand Hazard in their second edition].
« Last Edit: December 12, 2006, 10:40:29 PM by paul cowley »
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Bill_McBride

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Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2006, 11:01:33 PM »
Love Golf Design is currently building a green that if one misses by 5 yds to the right they enter a 50 acre+ bunker that drops 60' immediately and rolls about 100 yds away....all to be in play.
It makes St Enodoc's seem smaller than a pot and truly has to be seen to be believed. [might make Marks and Forrests Largest Sand Hazard in their second edition].

Paul, where is this lovely creature?

Jim Nugent

Re:We don't need no stinking hazards/bunkers
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2006, 12:04:39 AM »
Paul, would love to see a photo of this new bunker, whenever that is possible.