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Jonathan Cummings

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2002, 07:09:37 PM »
Found it surfing golf porn sites....  ;)
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Chris_Blakely

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2002, 07:15:49 PM »
Found the site while searching for information on Taconic Golf Club.
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Dan King

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2002, 07:58:09 PM »
Amazingly enough I've been at this for almost a generation. I started posting on rec.sport back in the mid 80s. If it had something to do with golf, you'd put the word golf in the title. There were usenet tools that were so damn sofisticated that they would only send you posts with the word golf in the title. That made reading and posting to usenet way cool. I believe we got rec.sport.golf approved back around '91.

I don't have anyway to prove this -- google usenet search doesn't even go back that far -- but I believe in going on 20 years of posting about golf on the internet, I'm probably about half way to the total TEPaul has posted in 2002.

I would think I found about about GolfClubAtlas is much the same way I find out anything useful in golf architecture. TommyN told me.

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Mike_Duffy

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2002, 08:11:13 PM »
I found the old Golfweb site by accident in 1995 shortly after I hooked into the internet. All the names that redanman mentions either were there in 1995 or joined in the years thereafter.

I thought I was the only guy in Australia who was interested in golf course architecture, as I was then the only one from Down Under posting (apart from the redoubtable "Mothman", aka Brett Mogg, then as now, domiciled in Singapore). I clearly remember my first post and the abusive reply I received from a poster called Torosay.

However, Jamie Duffner posted a message welcoming me and telling me that "Torosay" was a dickhead. Thereafter I followed the tribe through golfweb, then two other sites before arriving at Bravenet, then here.

I don't post as often as I used to, or for that matter log into the internet as much as did in former days, nonetheless, I enjoy reading the posts, particularly those relating to golf courses in Oz and NZ that I'm familiar with, and it is good to know that there are  others south of equator equally interested in golf course design as I am.

My one disappointment at all of the sites, is the relative lack of discussion regarding Asian courses. Having played many of them in several countries of the region, it seems to me that particular part of the golf world is being ignored, however, it probably has something to do with the lack of participants from that geographical area.

The slogan for the Australian Masters, starting at Huntingdale GC tomorrow "The Tradition Continues" seems perfectly apt for this site.
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A_Clay_Man

Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2002, 08:26:48 PM »
My friend Eddie once made a statement about how golf course architects say that there is no more dunesland to build good courses on anymore. When I moved to the Monterey Peninsula I saw a ton of dunesland just sitting there. When I got my first computer in late 98' I was wondering what the hell to do with it. So one day I punched up dunesland and found this link. The feature interview at that time was Pete Dye's. I read it and was laughing so hard I had to comeback to learn more about what the hell those questions were all about. ;D
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Doug Siebert

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2002, 10:01:34 PM »
Dan King,

Actually Google does have a pretty complete Usenet archive now.  There are a few holes in it and is spotty in places but it has posts from the earliest days of Usenet over 20 years ago.  I found it about a month after it was created, and remember you from the early days.  I found your earliest post:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1991Sep4.163939.29121%40nas.nasa.gov&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain

There's a post by Mark Koenig from late July that quotes one of your posts, so you were around earlier than that, but like I said their archive is a bit spotty.  You can find older posts by going to http://groups.google.com and choosing the advanced search, which lets you narrow down postings by date.
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Tommy_Naccarato

Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2002, 10:06:58 PM »
Mike duffy, all of these years, and how could I forget about Torosay????

Torosay was actually a term the fellow in mention came up with regarding his ancestral roots. His name was actuallly James Dudgeon if I remember right.

Anyway, from the Now It Can Be Told department, Mr. Dudgeon fancied himself as a golf course middleman, seeking people out who wanted to develop their monies and properties into golf courses. He boasted of experience and actual properties, which of course no one ever had heard of. He also disagreed with anyone and everyone on the GolfWeb architecture discussion site, claiming that we were clueless and that he knew more about golf architecture and history then all of us combined (Or something like that)

One day while feeling cantankerous and out of work, I came up with a ficitional character--an Italian lettuce farmer who had a keen interest to make his productive farm fields into a 18 hole golf course. ("Eyza wanna go inta da golfa coursa bizaness!") Setting up a ficitional email account on a friend's AOL account, using his business fax number, but never really ever letting him have my phone number.

He literally wouldn't leave me alone!

He sent things in the mail, promised all sorts of earnings, even brought in Jack Nicklaus's name into the scheme of things to intice further interest as a possible architect. He wanted a check to draw-up feasability studies!

Finally, the boat tipped over for our Torosay.

From a source, who will go unmentioned here since he had happened upon him in a bizarre business dealing--was jailed for fraud, and he had managed to get quite a substantial amount of money out of the poor victim.

We have never heard from him again--thankfully!

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JSlonis

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2002, 10:33:25 PM »
The "Doyen" TEPaul got me hooked...May 2001.
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Daryl "Turboe" Boe

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2002, 10:38:48 PM »
Great story on Torosay, Tommy.  I too had forgotton about him, or maybe blocked out the memories I guess.

It brings back memories though.
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Kevin_Reilly

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Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2002, 12:20:27 AM »
Wasn't there a Larry of Troy or something similar as well?  I recall a name like that as a troublemaker.
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THuckaby2

Re: How did you find GCA???
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2002, 07:59:47 AM »
Redanman:  I'm waiting for your pleas.   ;)

I thought 1990 was about when rec.sports.golf started... that was off the top of my head but if Dan says 1991, then 1991 it is - I'm pretty happy to be a year off.  And I am pretty sure I was there on usenet also... I remember being quite pleased with myself when I finally got that to work.  

The names from the past there are the stuff of legend...

Ken Pitts
Mark Koenig
Larry of Troy (who's real name is Larry Crane, is actually a damn nice guy in person, and who only started "making trouble" on the Bravenet group - in the golfonline grillroom he was as smartass but a loveable one).

Many others go back that far...

Ahhhh, the memories....

TH
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