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paul cowley

" Why can't the English learn to speak?"
« on: December 06, 2005, 12:04:50 AM »
....or [ as much as I love that song from My Fair Lady ], let me rephrase ..." Why can't we build a really good course for under 2 mil ?".....
 well, I guess I did a few years back for about 1.4 mil that got G'Digests annual 'best new bargain course' award, and as of late I have been engaged to construct a course on a similar site in another apple orchard, [ mowable, well drained slopes ], near New Paltz in the Hudson River Valley and, as such, I hope to engage one Tom Paul as Design Associate [cheap labor].....and well, if anyone else [ I hope Patrick Mucci is asleep ], wants to input the progress as it goes....I'm your man....I think  ::).

...or better yet, talk to Tom.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2005, 06:28:53 AM by paul cowley »
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

Tony_Muldoon

Re:" Why can't the English learn to speake?"
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2005, 03:32:06 AM »
What a cheap trick, I thought we were going to talk about important matters like Shaw as seen through the eyes of Allan J Lerner.  If you really loved that song you would know it's

"Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?"

but as the song continues.

There even are places where English completely
disappears. In America, they haven't used it for years!


http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/myfairlady/whycanttheenglish.htm


(PS Lerner was at university with JFK, and thus a contemporary of TEP's father - you may not have heard the last of this one.)
Good luck with the course.
2025 Craws Nest Tassie, Carnoustie.

paul cowley

Re:" Why can't the English learn to speake?"
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2005, 06:11:20 AM »
OK Tony...let me rephrase my first sentence as '...or [as much as I love the last lyric in the song from My Fair Lady] '.....do you feel better now?...jaysus what a site!  
 ;)
« Last Edit: December 06, 2005, 06:31:11 AM by paul cowley »
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

TEPaul

Re:" Why can't the English learn to speak?"
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2005, 06:43:07 AM »
Paul:

In my opinion, the best way to use architectural novices like me on raw sites is to put us on the land and let us try to figure out as many potential ways to use natural landforms as they are as possible. The reason I think we're good at that is simply because we've never been infected ;) by the use of large earth-moving machinery and so we probably have little imagination how to use it to easily change landforms. I'm sure you know what I mean by that.  ;)

Plus some of us have some pretty amazing inventories of golf holes in our heads to draw from in what I'd loosely call "conceptual copying" or "strategic mimicing".  :)

paul cowley

Re:" Why can't the English learn to speak?"
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2005, 07:02:50 AM »
...then you will love this new site because we don't have a budjet for large earth moving equipment....we will have to do this one the old fashioned way and get the most from the least...but it is a very good site, a great open lab on which to play out the paul and Paul chronicles.
oh how I love the smell of diesel fumes in the morning!
paul cowley...golf course architect/asgca

TEPaul

Re:" Why can't the English learn to speak?"
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2005, 07:33:05 AM »
"...then you will love this new site because we don't have a budjet for large earth moving equipment....we will have to do this one the old fashioned way and get the most from the least..."

Good, because that's what I'm best at visualizing anyway. I just don't have a "machinery imagination" because I've never done that and I'm never gonna even watch it because I don't want my "natural landform" mind to become "impure". ;)

When I see something for a golf hole and you say "no can do, and here's why" then we can figure out some other way with machinery or whatever.

How's that---for starters, anyway?
« Last Edit: December 06, 2005, 07:34:17 AM by TEPaul »

Steve Lang

Re:" Why can't the English learn to speak?"
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2005, 09:01:44 AM »
 8)

this is a dangerous precedent, a virtual pandora's box, now every gca wanna be on this site is going to be pumping you for some (input) consulting part of this work (free labor of course,.. just recognition)

btw who is your environmental consultant?
Inverness (Toledo, OH) cathedral clock inscription: "God measures men by what they are. Not what they in wealth possess.  That vibrant message chimes afar.
The voice of Inverness"

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