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Paul Richards

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Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« on: August 04, 2005, 07:37:16 AM »
Before Shivas derides the author  :-[ ;)

take a moment to read up on the 'shrine', also known as Chicago Golf Club:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-0508040133aug04,1,6003985.column?coll=chi-sportscolumnist-hed





"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Paul Richards

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"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Paul Richards

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2005, 07:39:03 AM »
neither link worked, (I tried!)

    
Light to shine on shrine
Walker Cup offers public rare invitation to Chicago Golf Club

Published August 4, 2005


Imagine if Wrigley Field never opened its doors. The ballpark existed as a great shrine to baseball but only a privileged few used it as a private facility.

You had heard about the ivy and the scoreboard, and all the special moments that had taken place there. But you never saw the place.

Then one weekend, the Wrigley Field members decided to have a special two-game international series there and invite the public. As a baseball fan, you would run to Clark and Addison just to see this slice of history.

Well, that's the story at ultra-exclusive Chicago Golf Club in Wheaton next week. The area's most historic golf course will be playing host to the Walker Cup on Aug. 13-14. The opening ceremony will be Aug. 12.

The event pits the top U.S. amateurs against their rivals from Britain and Ireland in Ryder Cup-style matches. Just like the Ryder Cup, the Europeans have dominated the biennial event, winning the last three.

The golf should be terrific, but that's not the only attraction. If you are a true fan of the game, this could be your one chance to see Chicago Golf Club. Unless, of course, you befriend a member, which always is a good idea.

Completed in 1895, the first 18-hole golf course in the United States has stood the test of time--and remains stuck in time.

There is no air conditioning in the clubhouse, and with the exception of a few new back tees, the course basically has been untouched.

"[Designer] Charles Blair McDonald could walk around the corner at any point and the place still would look the same," said club member Bill Shean, a two-time U.S. Senior Amateur champion.

Born in Canada, McDonald fell in love with the game while attending college at St. Andrews in Scotland. Hanging out with Old and Young Tom Morris, he decided to bring many design elements of the famous Scottish courses to the United States.

"He was a visionary," said Rand Jerris, a historian for the United States Golf Association. "He was so passionate about Scottish golf, he tried to replicate the best holes in the British Isles here."

Chicago Golf exhibits many of those touches. The layout is relatively devoid of trees, looking unlike many of the forests that double as golf courses in the area. Tall, penal fescue grasses surround the fairways. The par-3 seventh sports a back-to-front sloped green, much like the original Redan hole in North Berwick, Scotland.

Every green is the real treasure to Chicago Golf, Shean says. Updated by Seth Raynor in 1923, they feature false fronts and have ridges, spines, bumps, contours and all sorts of other challenges running through them.

"I've played a lot of golf in the U.S. and around the world, and the greens at Chicago Golf are in the top five of the game," Shean said. "What they've done here hasn't been duplicated all that often. [McDonald and Raynor] were experts. The greens are what make people play the course."

Shean says the greens will be the defense for the course next week. Playing at par 70 and 6,782 yards, the course could be a pitch-and-putt for the young bombers. But if the players can't land their approaches in the correct spots on the greens, they could be in for an adventure.

Both teams will feel the pressure regardless how the course plays. But if it is hot, they won't find refuge in the clubhouse. The club delights at shunning air conditioning. There is indoor plumbing.

"[Air conditioning] is voted down every time," Shean said. "The members want it that way. It's part of the tradition. When we say no cell phones, we really mean it."

The club is all about tradition. Chicago Golf is one of the five original clubs that formed the United States Golf Association in 1895.

In the early days of the game, Chicago Golf was host to three U.S. Opens, three U.S. Amateurs and two Walker Cups. The club's last big event occurred in 1928 when amateur Bobby Jones led the United States to victory in the Walker Cup.

"This is one of the great places in American golf," the USGA's Jerris said. "People who haven't seen the course will be amazed at how good it is."

Because the fairways won't be roped, attendance will be limited. Daily tickets go for $35 and a $75 package includes both days and the opening ceremony.

If you love the game, make the trip to Chicago Golf next week. It might be a long time before the club opens its doors again.

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esherman@tribune.com
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Paul Richards

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2005, 07:40:03 AM »
> The par-3 seventh sports a back-to-front sloped green, much like the original Redan hole in North Berwick, Scotland.

Scene of my hole-in-one, this has to rank as one of the GREAT holes of the world!

 ;)
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

PThomas

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2005, 07:51:03 AM »
are people going to watch it?  which days?  I had made a vow that I wasn't going to go there until I played the course first but I think I would break that if I could meet up with some of you other knuckleheads ;)!
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2005, 08:41:53 AM »
The GB & I team fly out this Saturday, although for some reason the don't see the course until next Wednesday.  Good luck to Oliver Fisher who is set to become the youngest ever player in the competition. Just 16.  :) Bring it on he's ready.
Let's make GCA grate again!

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2005, 08:42:26 AM »
An unbroken link

Interesting that there will be no ropes for the gallery.  Is that normal for the Walker Cup?

Kevin_Reilly

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2005, 12:08:17 PM »
An unbroken link

Interesting that there will be no ropes for the gallery.  Is that normal for the Walker Cup?

FWIW, there were no ropes at the US Junior Am last year at Olympic.  With smaller galleries, they aren't needed.
"GOLF COURSES SHOULD BE ENJOYED RATHER THAN RATED" - Tom Watson

Andy Doyle

Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2005, 12:31:21 PM »
Ditto for US Women's Am, except for around the greens.

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mikes1160

Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2005, 01:00:07 PM »
I will knock Mr. Sherman for failing to mention the man taking care of those superb greens, Jon Jennings, supt. at CGC, and a real gentleman.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2005, 04:40:50 PM »
Okay, where do the GCA stalwarts meet to settle old grudges and discuss MacDonald/Raynor courses at length?  My wife and I will be on the grounds Saturday and Sunday, and in Chicago checking out the night life Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights.  All offers will be carefully considered.

Do any of the Chicagoans know if there is any kind of transit from the Wheaton train station to Chicago Golf Club?  We are planning to take the train out from downtown both weekend days.  Thanks for advice.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2005, 06:58:12 PM »
Sounds great, Shivas, the Boss Bar it is.  We'll be at a little hotel (The Seneca?) off Michigan north of Wacker.  Does the scenery breathe?

What time do we look for you?

For other GCA'ers attending the Walker Cup, how about somewhere at the club at noon on Saturday to locate everyone?  Is there a flag pole?  Front steps to the clubhouse?  Somebody help me here!

Paul Richards

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2005, 10:13:52 PM »
Bill

> how about somewhere at the club at noon on Saturday to locate everyone?  Is there a flag pole?  Front steps to the clubhouse?  Somebody help me here!


Shivas will be the one with the Schlitz can in his hand, hanging off the CB MacDonald statue!

 ;) ;) ;)
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Bill_McBride

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 10:22:11 PM »
Paul, will look for you there at noon Saturday.  If Shivas is hanging on the statue, we'll probably have to ignore him.

Paul Richards

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 10:37:36 PM »
> If Shivas is hanging on the statue, we'll probably have to ignore him.


At least we can see him get thrown into the paddy wagon ....

 ;) ;)
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Paul Richards

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2005, 12:53:39 PM »
Make sure you make a visit to the "Viagara Triangle" while in the area ...

 ;)
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Gerry B

Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2005, 12:03:35 AM »
will be there both days -sat aft and all day sunday

for potential meeting points there is a statue of cbm in a small garden adjacent to the pro shop and the entrance to the men's locker room - but might be a restricted area for the players. there is also a recently built house for overnight guests that is adjacent to the practice putting green which is locateed behind the 1st tee.

agree about the redan hole - have played many and imho cgc's is the finest of the bunch(sorry emperor) and surprisingly overlooked by most when discussing this hole design
 
for those attending the matches and have not previously played the course - i recommend a few viewing areas as follows:

#2 - road hole - a great par 4 with a shelf back left

#10 - short - an all world green complex -which i am sure influenced Banks "short" at Forsgate.

#12 -the punchbowl - a classic par 4 with an all world green complex and some well placed fairway bunkers. if the course has a signature hole -this might be it

#4 - green - a par 5 with an oustanding green complex - lots of potential for nasty pin postions.

#5 - a short par 4 where the big hitters might try and  drive the green

and of course #7 -the redan - a brilliant one shotter with many pin possibilities as the green is severely sloped and very deep.

Robert_Ball

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2005, 12:56:01 AM »
Gerry,

Thanks for the suggestions- #4 should be great for match play. The fairway bunkering on that hole is brilliant.  As someone familiar with the course, what do you think of #11?  Will they have problems positioning their tee shot or will it just be an easy  3W or iron down the right side?


I'll be flying out for both days and also looking to get a couple of rounds in if any GCA'ers are looking for a game.  Also, I have an extra grounds pass (gratis) if anyone needs one.

Robert
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Gerry B

Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2005, 01:24:48 AM »
Robert:

everyone has certain holes that for some reason gives one problems off the tee and #11 at CGC in my case falls into that category. the players most likely will hit 3w or long irons unless they take risks as it is match play.Agree that the bunkering on #4 is superb.

I forgot to mention earlier in this thread that the club recently removed some trees and imho the changes were for the better.feels much more open and the clubhouse is now a point of reference from many holes ala shinnecock. other than a new tee box on #17 which lengthened the hole by approx 40 yds -the place is a museum piece which is why it is one of my favorite places to play.

PThomas

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2005, 07:09:58 PM »
a nice picture of the 5th at CGC in Golfweek (and an article by Mr. Klein)

it's a great picture!  it really looks like a links-style hole

and I'll be looking for you guys out there on Saturday (BUT I WILL play that course someday!)
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

Jonathan Cummings

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Re:Chicago Golf - Walker Cup article
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2005, 06:02:37 PM »
You Chicago boys seen and read our very own Jim Noyes's article on MacD in Best of Chicago?  It's in the July edition (I think) and is quite well written.

JC