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Philip Gawith

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Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« on: July 24, 2005, 06:13:48 PM »
 I just had the pleasure of a trip to Devon and played these four courses (East and West at Saunton). I had played Saunton East before and RND and return trips only enhanced the pleasure.

Saunton East is sometimes whimsically discussed as a possible Open venue if it came to this part of the world. I am not sure it is quite that calibre, but it is still a wonderful course. I think the holes I remember best are the two excellent, back to back short par fours - the tenth and eleventh,  and the fifth hole - only 110 yards, but a really tricky little shot.

I also enjoyed the West course - a bit shorter and quirkier than its more senior relation, but also the possessor of some excellent short par-fours.

Both courses were  extremely dry so the ball ran miles. This was a good reminder of how links courses are still afforded protection even when playing short. My opening drive at Saunton ended  up running about 360 yards, but it was still difficult to get approach shots close when greens and entrances were so firm. Add to that greens of some slope and it is not so easy to score, even if the fairways flatter yoru length off the tee.

Westward Ho is a fantastic place to visit. I think the clubhouse, albeit in a low-key way, is probably the most historically evocative of any I have visited. The change-rooms have a wonderful old wood  panelling, and it is quite something to see all old boards signalling winners all the way back to 1864.  On top of that, there is some fantastic old JH Taylor memorabilia (including an exchange of letters with WG Grace - a cricketer to those of you on the wrong side of the water :)- and another with Rudyard Kipling.) and the largest collection of antique golf clubs that I have ever seen.

Interestingly for what is - I think - the oldest club in England, I suspect the membership has morphed quite a lot in recent years. Although I think there is still a "grand" element, financial need has meant that the club has not been able to evolve into a more socially exclusive club like Royal St Georges, so you meet an interesting spectrum of members.

As for the golf - it brings to mind mostly Brora and the Old Course for the sheer lack of definition on some holes. And only Brora can begin to compare for the sheer, pastoral  feel it evokes. The Cape hole is justly famous with its bunker, but I had forgotten what a spectacular hole Alps (number 6) is with the fantastically rumpled fairway. The stretch of holes going out from 3-8 feel like the best on the course. I think some people are not so keen on the holes involving the rushes - 10, 11 and 12 - but I think 10 and 11 in particular are good holes in their different ways.

Ilfracombe is a less exalted course than these others, but it is only half an hour from Saunton and and hour from Westward Ho. On Mark Rawlinson's advice (thank you Mark ;) we played it before playing Westward Ho! and it was a nice foil to the other courses. It is not a links course, but it is perched high on the cliffs above the north Devon coast with stunning views.

It is not unlike Thurlstone, except it is much steeper as a number of hole are either going up the slopes, or around it. While the nature of the land constrains what is possible to some extent, it is still a fun course to play.

The course has some pleasantly quirky features - three back to back par threes at one point being one of them! But the stand out feature is the short par  four Quarry hole, only 68 yards from the club tees, with a quarry between you and the green! A really unique hole. The course also finishes with a par three with a very interesting green complex - I will make an effort to post some pictures to show these two  holes, and others.

I suspect most golf tourists from the US seldom make it to these parts but I can only commend these courses. No links enthusiast will be anything other than delighted by the Saunton courses and Westward Ho! and if you are travelling with a partner, then you are in one of the nicest parts of England to have a holiday - and well on your way to St Enodoc for desert. :)

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2005, 06:57:38 PM »
St Enocdoc is more than a desert. It is a main course by any standards. i love it. I am sorry I missed Saunton and will get it on the next pass. However once was enough of Westward Ho. I enjoyed it and the hisory in the clubhouse is to die for. However there are better courses to play.

Tom_Doak

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2005, 07:19:29 PM »
Tiger you may incur the wrath of Ran for that last statement.  Last I checked, Westward Ho! was still in his top 25 courses in the world.

I had the pleasure of getting back to Saunton and Westward Ho! and St. Enodoc last spring for the first time since 1982, with Don Placek and George Waters, after our visit to Painswick.  It was a treat to play each of them again.  I wish America had more courses of that caliber, where fun trumps style and challenge.

David_Tepper

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2005, 11:09:37 PM »
Philip -

I am, as ever, in awe of both the golfing opportunities available to you in the UK and your initiative in taking advantage of them.

I did get to play Trevose and St. Endoc in June, 2002. I was hoping to get further up the coast for more golf, but it was not to be.

I have been curious about Bude & North Cornwall GC, in the village of Bude, which appears to be on the coast about mid-way between Padstow and Barnstaple. Do you know of it at all?

DT    

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2005, 11:30:53 PM »
Tom you are correct. I am pleased that you did not turn on me for that. I did enjoy aiming 10 yards left or right of a horse or cow. lol However when one only has so many days to play in the UK, I will go for St. Enodoc anyday over Western Ho now that I have played both. I am not sure how Ran gets it to top 25 in England much less the world, however as the our fierless leader on here, Ran rules.

Neil Regan

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2005, 12:10:12 AM »
    One May evening at Westward Ho!, on the 16th green as I studied my putt, I was approached quite closely by a slender lass on an unbridled mare. "Pardon me," she says, "Can you direct me towards the town ? I've lost my way, and my mount is thirsty."

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Grass speed  <>  Green Speed

Philip Gawith

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2005, 03:27:07 AM »
Tiger - I would put Westward Ho! at the top of mylist of what I would describe as "soul golf". There may be better courses, but not many that make you feel better.

I love that anecdote from Neil (surely not Don Quixote lurking under a nom de plume :)) - I have had the pleasure of seeing the wild horses roaming around, but so far no young lasses asking for favours.

David - I did not make it to Bude, it was a toss-up with Ilfracombe for our fourth round and Ilfracombe was closer. I think Bude is more of a genuine links, which Ilfracombe is not. Have a look at the website - www.budegolf.co.uk - seems like it was originally patronised mostly by vicars and military, which must have made for a bracing clubhouse ambience. ;)

Mike_Sweeney

Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2005, 09:15:37 AM »
Philip,

How far are these courses from Hoylake, driving distance?

Thanks

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2005, 10:11:04 AM »
Phillip, I have Prestwick and North Berwick in that group. I am not sure why I was somewhat let down by the course. I did enjoy the back and forth with the horses and actually played with a few members who were delightful. I was so up from 3 hours in the clubhouse reading everything I could before the round that the actual course itself could not live up to the history. That being said I will still miss it on next pass and play Saunton and move on down to the glorious and grand St. Enodoc. That is a course in my world top 50. It also touches the soul of the game. Of course the clubhouse there does very little for you. lol Each place has its moments.

NAF

Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2005, 10:37:30 AM »
Neil--where was your camera to take a picture of the lass and the filly!

Philip Gawith

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Re:Saunton/Westward Ho!/Ilfracombe
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2005, 01:55:48 PM »
Mike, Sean gave you a very educated guess. According to the Royal Autombile Club route planner the distance between the two clubs is 278 miles and they reckon it will take you 5 hours and 19 minutes!

Sean - you can give up your day job now. ;)