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MCirba

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For historical purposes, the "second" golf course at Van Cortlandt known as Mosholu was designed by Pelham pro William Kilgour and Arthur C. Johnson, secretary of the New York Golf Club, working in conjunction with NYC Parks Commissioner Thomas W. Whittle, circa 1914-15.

Incidentally, Kilgour made some revisions to the original Van Cortlandt course in 1915, as well.
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Greg Hohman

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Uncanny coincidence: Today a friend who knows nothing of my NYC golf plans and has zero interest in golf texted two photos of WPA art in Pelham Bay's clubhouse! The city's PB webpage refers to an Art Deco Great Room, which gives me hope that the art is still there.

I am tempted to start an OT thread of great interest to me: art in golf clubhouses. Thoughts? Before today I would have summarized what I have seen as "If you have seen one portrait of a club president, you have seen them all."




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Greg Hohman

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It pays to consult the DG! My little gray cells turned Mike's endorsement of Split Rock's greens into an endorsement of VC's, so I went to VC last week. While liking them and their size (smaller than I am used to), I began to wonder about Mike's praise! «The fool wanders, the wise man travels.» Temps were in the mid 30s and I had the place to myself. Arriving by subway and feeling the cold (I live in SoCal) as I passed the parade ground, I had a sinking feeling about the wisdom of my spur-of-the-moment decision. Walking the course warmed me, so did the experience. Mike Sweeney refers to long walks. I used them to take in the unusual setting of Bronx-scape and, yes, freeways. Too bad Mike's pics are not viewable as points of comparison. Like Chris, I liked 16-17-18. The following are first impressions; I don't have time to go thru the photos I took of every hole. The undulating fws of 2, 4 and 5 deserve some praise, iirc, as does the bunkering on 6. Even winter conditions put my local muni (Chula Vista) to shame. Although in the last two years I have played about four times per year and shoot in the high 90s, VC was not challenging, which suited me on this occasion. Despite fallen leaves and my first play there, I lost one ball, maybe two. The bunkers, some attractive (e.g. 7, 12 and 18?), were as if not in play. This was a peculiar sensation; on a normal day I find a few--here, not one swallowed my wayward swings. The Golf House, large with wood shingles, is noteworthy; I hope it is a protected building. The ground floor has the pro shop (friendly staff!); a large space with bar, seating and memorabilia; and, outdoors, a pavilion under renovation. More memorable is the locker room on the second floor, a warren of old wood lockers, if not originals then at least for many decades in use. Various celebrities (it's NYC!) have played VC over the years.
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Chris Hughes

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It pays to consult the DG! My little gray cells turned Mike's endorsement of Split Rock's greens into an endorsement of VC's, so I went to VC last week. While liking them and their size (smaller than I am used to), I began to wonder about Mike's praise! «The fool wanders, the wise man travels.» Temps were in the mid 30s and I had the place to myself. Arriving by subway and feeling the cold (I live in SoCal) as I passed the parade ground, I had a sinking feeling about the wisdom of my spur-of-the-moment decision. Walking the course warmed me, so did the experience. Mike Sweeney refers to long walks. I used them to take in the unusual setting of Bronx-scape and, yes, freeways. Too bad Mike's pics are not viewable as points of comparison. Like Chris, I liked 16-17-18. The following are first impressions; I don't have time to go thru the photos I took of every hole. The undulating fws of 2, 4 and 5 deserve some praise, iirc, as does the bunkering on 6. Even winter conditions put my local muni (Chula Vista) to shame. Although in the last two years I have played about four times per year and shoot in the high 90s, VC was not challenging, which suited me on this occasion. Despite fallen leaves and my first play there, I lost one ball, maybe two. The bunkers, some attractive (e.g. 7, 12 and 18?), were as if not in play. This was a peculiar sensation; on a normal day I find a few--here, not one swallowed my wayward swings. The Golf House, large with wood shingles, is noteworthy; I hope it is a protected building. The ground floor has the pro shop (friendly staff!); a large space with bar, seating and memorabilia; and, outdoors, a pavilion under renovation. More memorable is the locker room on the second floor, a warren of old wood lockers, if not originals then at least for many decades in use. Various celebrities (it's NYC!) have played VC over the years.


Greg, this look familiar?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TLCaDbBv_s

Played many many rounds at Vannie during grad school and even organized a pre-graduation outing+kegger there during "disorientation"!  Special place for a lot of reasons...

Once we started working and had access to some transportation, switched over to Pelham/Split Rock.  Like a course that has fallen into disrepair but the "bones" are unmistakable, that clubhouse had serious potential.  Heard about the restoration but haven't had the chance to go back and see it. 

Dyker Beach and Clearview were a couple other city venues we had great experiences with. 

I still have an annual pass tucked away somewhere...


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Greg Hohman

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Greg, this look familiar?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TLCaDbBv_s

Played many many rounds at Vannie during grad school and even organized a pre-graduation outing+kegger there during "disorientation"!  Special place for a lot of reasons...

Once we started working and had access to some transportation, switched over to Pelham/Split Rock.  Like a course that has fallen into disrepair but the "bones" are unmistakable, that clubhouse had serious potential.  Heard about the restoration but haven't had the chance to go back and see it. 

Dyker Beach and Clearview were a couple other city venues we had great experiences with. 

I still have an annual pass tucked away somewhere...





One would think the scene would be promoted, but even framing a still takes time and effort. Perhaps something is there already and I missed it. Someday an historian will have a field day. Have you considered donating scenes from the “disorientation”?



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